03 LS Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 If it was low volume on a non-shared platform in a low volume plant - sure. But in this case it's a question of whether they make 30K vehicles at $10K profit - or they get nothing. They can't shut down a plant or get rid of a platform by cancelling them. I'm sure Ford would like sales to be higher but we'll have to wait and see what happens after the MCE and the livery market is in full force. Alan, I understand what you are saying, the money was already spent, every vehicle made all contribute something to the bottomline. I guess that's why Ford hasn't pull the plug yet. I bet Ford would love to see "30K vehicles at $10K profit" per, but after more than 2 years, total MKT is approaching 15K, not even half that. When you spend certain amount money and effort on something, you expect certain things to happen. When the outcome badly miss your expectations, you call it a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I believe Flex/MKT has its own line, not shared with Edge/MKX, so in a sense, they do have their "own" plant in that their under used capacity won't translate into more Edge/MKX being built. Regarding the design/engineering cost, the D4 CUV unique cost is substantial, no other ways about it. And both of them are underpeforming, to put it mildly. Your pulling shit out of your ass so you don't look stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Alan, I understand what you are saying, the money was already spent, every vehicle made all contribute something to the bottomline. I guess that's why Ford hasn't pull the plug yet. I bet Ford would love to see "30K vehicles at $10K profit" per, but after more than 2 years, total MKT is approaching 15K, not even half that. When you spend certain amount money and effort on something, you expect certain things to happen. When the outcome badly miss your expectations, you call it a ... I already said that I'm sure that neither the Flex or the MKT met sales expectations. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are failures or should be killed immediately. Until we see the refreshes and what happens with the new livery market I just don't think we can make a fair judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Assembly line photo, Flex followed by 2 Edges.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Assembly line photo, Flex followed by 2 Edges.. Hmm, well there goes that theory/argument.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Hmm, well there goes that theory/argument.... Seriously. It's like they don't even try anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruel24 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The CX-9 is a stretched out Edge platform...this why no 3 row in the MKX Exactly why I don't understand why Ford didn't do the same with the MKX, which is little more than a fancy Edge. It would differentiate it more from the Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'd say thats very doubtful...I'd expect a Edge/MKX replacement in 2014 or 2015 on the CD4 platform...esp since I'd expect it to merge with the S-Max or replace it in the EU The Edge is only the #1 best selling Mid-sized CUV now in NA I assume Oakville is 'Flex-build' so it can adapt as required so that's good news. All the talk on other threads made me forget the comment I made. Back to product is a refreshing change and the fact the Edge is doing well is a victory in of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Seriously. It's like they don't even try anymore. The pictures are better then searching for the obscure factory document showing what's built where/when etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Assembly line photo, Flex followed by 2 Edges.. Judging from the sales data... That Flex was probably followed by 20 Edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Assembly line photo, Flex followed by 2 Edges.. Judging from the sales data... That Flex was probably followed by 20 Edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The pictures are better then searching for the obscure factory document showing what's built where/when etc. And took all of :15 seconds to find on the Google! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 And took all of :15 seconds to find on the Google! 15 seconds...was your internet slow that day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 15 seconds...was your internet slow that day? I didn't want to make LS feel too bad! :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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