NickF1011 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 When we Marylanders gonna get together for a brew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 http://popvssoda.com/images/bigdrawn.gif Curious. You must pick your spots carefully, as this map suggests it goes straight to 'pop' for most people, with a smattering of soda-ites up to KC. Interesting map. Around central OK, it's usually "Coke" and sometimes "pop," but some of the old-timers, particularly in the rural areas, will say "soda pop." If someone says "soda," they're usually Not From Around Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 When we Marylanders gonna get together for a brew? Baltimore Autoshow is coming up soon...is it any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I'm up the road from you off Route 40...in Ceciltucky...um Cecil county LOL Ah, Ceciltuckey, there used to be a confederate flag flying when you came over the bridge from Harford county on 95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Baltimore Autoshow is coming up soon...is it any good? Not really. More or less nothing but production vehicles. Very, very few concepts or new releases. The DC one is a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Richard, the Etymologist among us we never knew I studied etymology in college, but I didn't do so well. Insects have always freaked me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrewfanGRB Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 http://popvssoda.com/images/bigdrawn.gif Curious. You must pick your spots carefully, as this map suggests it goes straight to 'pop' for most people, with a smattering of soda-ites up to KC. I love this. I always thought the Midwest was known for saying "pop", but when I think about it, all the people in my family and around my area tend to say "soda". The map bears that out--eastern 1/3 of Wisconsin leans "soda", but most/all of Minnesota, Michigan and Iowa lean "pop". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Richard, the Etymologist among us we never knew It's acceptable, I can get behind it, even if it feels like a well-worn slogan. Please. I'm a dabbler. papilgee4evaeva is the pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 No more lame than "Moving Forward". :poke: Toyota Haiku Moving you forward At a terrifying speed Unable to stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please. I'm a dabbler. papilgee4evaeva is the pro. Aw, shucks. :blush: Get me away from things that involve Latin, though, and I begin to look really amateurish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Get me away from things that involve Latin, though, and I begin to look really amateurish. I did a senior research paper on Heidegger's Being and Time. The English translation quotes the German liberally in the footnotes and I found German to be hopelessly opaque. Not so French, which I've generally been able to sort of fumble my way through, based on the little French I know and the extensive Latin borrowings in English. Anyway, I told my very German professor, "It sure seems like French is an easier language to learn than German," to which he replied, "A German would say that it is easy to learn or no Frenchman could learn it." (and, you know what a Swede is, right? A German in human form). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I did a senior research paper on Heidegger's Being and Time. The English translation quotes the German liberally in the footnotes and I found German to be hopelessly opaque. Not so French, which I've generally been able to sort of fumble my way through, based on the little French I know and the extensive Latin borrowings in English. Anyway, I told my very German professor, "It sure seems like French is an easier language to learn than German," to which he replied, "A German would say that it is easy to learn or no Frenchman could learn it." (and, you know what a Swede is, right? A German in human form). Had Modern English remained closer to Old English, it probably would have made German much clearer to you. Also, it's funny you mention French... two of my classmates made a presentation today about how extensive borrowing was from Frankish (Germanic) to Western Romance. One of the points they made was that lending and borrowing occurred pretty freely centuries ago. (Side note: I can muddle through written French as well, but ask me to listen to something and I'm completely lost.) To the point about your professor, though, it's REALLY crazy how defensive (or persnickety... whichever) native Europeans can get about their respective languages. Steering back on topic: Geh weiter. Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Had Modern English remained closer to Old English, it probably would have made German much clearer to you. That's why I'm such a fan of the Middle English as Old English/Old Norse creole theory. It explains how, in a matter of what? a couple centuries? English went from being heavily inflected with great flexibility in subject, verb and object ordering to a lightly inflected and rigid SVO framework into which you can insert just about any word, and the sentence structure provides the word with its role. Change a noun to a verb? Nothing could possibly be easier: "...ever since her being turned into a Churchill she has out-Churchill'd them all in high and mighty claims" (and even if not true, I do like this aspect of English) Steering back on topic: Geh weiter. Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Isn't this kind of an odd slogan to translate into the Romance languages? Edited January 27, 2012 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Steering back on topic: Geh weiter. Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Based off a couple hours spent reading the pronunciation section of a German book ten years ago (and no other german study), I'd say it rather does. But then, not knowing how it should actually be pronounced gives me great leeway to pronounce it as I would like it to sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) No more lame than "Moving Forward". :poke: Moving Forward is equally as lame in my opinion, possibly even more generic. Personally I find slogans in general to be a pretty stupid method of product endorsement but given the overall lack of any real intelligence in most of our population and their propensity to think in buzz clips I suppose it makes perfect sense. At any rate, I didn't buy a Toyota because of their slogan. I bought it because it was far better than the substandard Ford product that I was driving previously. Now that's a good slogan. lol Edited January 27, 2012 by BlackHorse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Isn't this kind of an odd slogan to translate into the Romance languages? Based off a couple hours spent reading the pronunciation section of a German book ten years ago (and no other german study), I'd say it rather does. But then, not knowing how it should actually be pronounced gives me great leeway to pronounce it as I would like it to sound Both of you make valid points. To me it actually sounds better in German because that language actually has synthetic comparatives, just as English does. Romance dropped that construction (it existed in Latin), preferring to use a periphrasis of "more + <adjective>." Since Ford is worldwide, I'd be interested to see how they express it in each country's native language (and variant, for that matter). I remember when McDonald's was translating "I'm lovin' it" to other languages, there was no easy way since that's a colloquial English saying, so they did the best they could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Based off a couple hours spent reading the pronunciation section of a German book ten years ago (and no other german study), I'd say it rather does. But then, not knowing how it should actually be pronounced gives me great leeway to pronounce it as I would like it to sound its pronounced gay viter . long I like in Budweiser. Edited January 27, 2012 by Gnostic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Moving Forward is equally as lame in my opinion, possibly even more generic. Personally I find slogans in general to be a pretty stupid method of product endorsement but given the overall lack of any real intelligence in most of our population and their propensity to think in buzz clips I suppose it makes perfect sense. At any rate, I didn't buy a Toyota because of their slogan. I bought it because it was far better than the substandard Ford product that I was driving previously. Now that's a good slogan. lol Slogans exist because they work. What's the first thing you think of when you hear "Just do it"? How about something as simple as "Enjoy"? Easily recognizable slogans keep brands in the forefront of consumers' minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Moving Forward. Shift. Go Further. Did Toyota, Nissan, and Ford hire the same ad agency? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Moving Forward. Shift. Go Further. Did Toyota, Nissan, and Ford hire the same ad agency? Either that... or fiercely competing agencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss444 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Moving Forward is equally as lame in my opinion, possibly even more generic. Personally I find slogans in general to be a pretty stupid method of product endorsement but given the overall lack of any real intelligence in most of our population and their propensity to think in buzz clips I suppose it makes perfect sense. At any rate, I didn't buy a Toyota because of their slogan. I bought it because it was far better than the substandard Ford product that I was driving previously. Now that's a good slogan. lol I wonder if Isuzu used "Moving Forward" as their slogan at some point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I saw a Toyota advert last night and it was a different slogan then 'Moving Forward'. It begged the question whether Toyota has a new one or just changing it for the sake of changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 its pronounced gay viter . long I like in Budweiser. Huh, I thought the -er was pronounced more like "uh" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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