silvrsvt Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 "We concede that we went a little overboard at some points," Minami said in a recent interview. "We actually had pretty bad feedback on this initially from different directions. But we are not going to buckle under that pressure." Hmm that isn't encouraging...no wonder why Honda styling dept is a hot mess http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120618/OEM03/306189976/1117/acura-designer-tweaks-the-beak-but-itll-stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 "Everybody hates it, but we're not going to change it anyway"?? Imagine if Ford had gone that route with Edsel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 After this design language debuted, 50% of Acura walkaways cited the beak as a reason they weren't buying. Don't mess with success, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I have no problem with the toned-down version of the beak used on the new ILX and RDX. The car people usually cite as the worst offender - the TL - has problems that go beyond the beak. From a side view, the nose simply looks too long on the unfacelifted version. From the front, the beak only aggravated this flaw. The "tweaked" model looks somewhat better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTwannabe Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 "Everybody hates it, but we're not going to change it anyway"?? Imagine if Ford had gone that route with Edsel. Fishbowl Taurus, anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fishbowl Taurus, anyone? Yikes. Talk about taking a styling cue overboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Fishbowl Taurus, anyone? At least they fixed it somewhat in 2000 Edited June 19, 2012 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Acura had a huge loyal fan base in the 90s. Their styling is off the wall now and I'm sure its hurt them. More evidence that Honda management refuses to admit mistakes and correct them. Acura styling is just like the Crosstour, a mistake that management refuses to back down and admit to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm not defending them in the slightest, just wondering if arrogance or pin-headedness is indeed really the issue here. Think about it: they haven't exactly lit the market on fire with a dearth of great or innovative new product at all, and their batting average pretty much sucks lately when it comes to MCEs. Is this really a case of the two aforementioned qualities being exhibited? Or is the problem even scarier in regards to the fact that maybe they have absolutely no fucking clue where to go or what to do next, because everything they touch seems to go to hell in a hand basket. I myself think the problems are much deeper than just the corporate attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think they just lost their design mojo and are out of touch with what the market wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think they just lost their design mojo and are out of touch with what the market wants. No way! Oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I rest my case. +1.... GOOD LORD THAT THING IS STILL HIDEOUS TO LOOK AT! I still am not used to seeing it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 +1.... GOOD LORD THAT THING IS STILL HIDEOUS TO LOOK AT! I still am not used to seeing it.... Well, they sold a whopping 84 last month, and a blistering 1,500 in all of 2011! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_91 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Giving their customers what they clearly don't want, that's the way to do it! lol The Acura "beak" has always reminded me of the Family Truckster from the movie Vacation... :lol: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Acura had a huge loyal fan base in the 90s. Their styling is off the wall now and I'm sure its hurt them. More evidence that Honda management refuses to admit mistakes and correct them. Acura styling is just like the Crosstour, a mistake that management refuses to back down and admit to. Honda and Acura need an identity again. Not sure what they stand for to differentitate them from crowd. No longer do they stand out from crowd fuel mileage, looks, or in handling/performance areas. Honda has lost its way and even its commercials on TV are lame. Quality and nostalgia are only things keeping them relevant these days. They have turned into this very conservative, afraid to take automotive risks company. That company needs a complete shakeup/rethink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boominup Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 No way! Oh, wait... Polly wanta cracker!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yeah, I don't know what Honda/Acura are thinking. I never would have thought it possible to make something uglier than the current gaudy Cadillac nose, but there you have it. Even Nissan (who I used to trust for conservative, consistent design) came out with this: Which reminds me of this: Come to think of it, that's worse than a Cadillac as well. What is the world coming to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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