jpd80 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Ford investing $6.2 billion, creating 12,000 new jobs by 2015 Ford Motor Co. plans to invest $6.2 billion to expand its U.S. manufacturing base, a move that will help it save 3,240 existing jobs and add another 12,000 positions by 2015. A large chunk of the investment will go into the maker’s home state of Michigan, which will see the addition of 2,350 new jobs. “These investments, many of which are already under way, will ensure our southeast Michigan manufacturing facilities can support our aggressive growth plans,” said Jim Tetreault, the Ford vice president in charge of North American manufacturing. The plan will cover an array of component as well as assembly plants. In the Detroit area, that includes an axle plant, a stamping facility and two assembly lines. The Michigan Assembly Plant has become the home base for an array of high-mileage models including the new Ford Focus Electric battery car. More at link http://www.nbcnews.com/business/ford...jobs-1C7659319 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Good article in today's Detnews.com. Full story by plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I am left wondering if this has something to do with Michigan becoming a "right to work(for less)" state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I am left wondering if this has something to do with Michigan becoming a "right to work(for less)" state? No. Certainly Michigan's recent right-to-work legislation is a boon to the state's economic development efforts, and it is a major advance for individual liberty. But Ford's Metro Detroit capital expenditures in 2013 and beyond is something the company committed to during 2011 contract negotiations with UAW. This took place well before the right-to-work legislation was signed by Michigan's governor. Detroit News article on Ford's SE Michigan capital investments Edited December 28, 2012 by aneekr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 ....and it is a major advance for individual liberty. Not wanting to derail this thread, but when were ANYONES individual liberties EVER at stake? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Not wanting to derail this thread, Then take the political crap to the off-topic forum where it belongs, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Michigan becoming a 'right to work' state is irrelevant. Ford is a union company. Its workers are union members regardless of whether they're employed in a right to work state. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Good article in today's Detnews.com. Full story by plant. Has anyone found a list of the investments and jobs that occur outside of Michigan? The employee count and investment listed for Michigan falls short of the total amounts announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 The 12,000 number is "highly optimistic" especially with Genk closing. The 2,350 jobs in MI have nothing to do with "right-to-work". These jobs are strictly to increase capacity at existing plants. I know MAP is running 3 shifts plus OT. The one article sMAP was getting more stamping capacity, perhaps to feed parts to Flat Rock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Then take the political crap to the off-topic forum where it belongs, please. Please refer to post #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Please refer to post #4. Please refer to the loaded language in post #3. If you'd used the more commonly-used "right to work," there would've been no door opened for the reply in post #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Has anyone found a list of the investments and jobs that occur outside of Michigan? The employee count and investment listed for Michigan falls short of the total amounts announced. U.S. plant investments outside Michigan as specified in Ford's 2011 contract with UAW include: Vehicle assembly: Chicago ($117M), Kansas City (>$1B), Kentucky Truck ($621M), Louisville ($639M), Avon Lake ($128M) Powertrain: Cleveland ($278M), Lima ($400M), Sharonville ($220M) Stamping: Buffalo ($136M), Chicago Heights ($86M) Refer to pp. 2 - 4 of this document for details Edited December 28, 2012 by aneekr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 This pretty much confirms that Woodhaven Stamping is closed in the next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 THANKS, aneekr! but this: "Chicago Stamping - The stampings for the Taurus and Explorer continues. Incremental stampings will also be sourced to the plant. Total Investment of $86M." brings up a couple questions first, what are "incremental stampings"? next, where are Oakville's MKT/Flex stampings made? I'm trying to put together a new TownCar replacement theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 THANKS, aneekr! but this: "Chicago Stamping - The stampings for the Taurus and Explorer continues. Incremental stampings will also be sourced to the plant. Total Investment of $86M." brings up a couple questions first, what are "incremental stampings"? next, where are Oakville's MKT/Flex stampings made? 1. Multi-step stamping process.2. Buffalo Stamping does around 37 stampings for Flex, I'd assume the same is true for MKT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Incremental stampings just means they will be adding a product that is not currently being produced there. Not only would that mean the stamping dies themselves, but it could also include the robotic lines that will assemble the completed product. Could be door, hood, or fender lines. Could be a completely new product or something being in-sourced from an outside vendor. Edited December 29, 2012 by Pioneer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) THANKS! now where are MKT's & Flexes stamped? Edited December 29, 2012 by 2b2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Has anyone connected with the plants heard anything about proposed increases? I'm thinking that F150 volume would be the priority here but also understanding that building out volume in other products is equally as important to maintaining pace with the increasing market. How does Ford find room for 12,000 new employees, will that involve significant expansions at existing plants? I'm wondering how Ford accomplishes that while continuing production in the meantime.. Edited December 29, 2012 by jpd80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Please refer to the loaded language in post #3. If you'd used the more commonly-used "right to work," there would've been no door opened for the reply in post #4. So...he is allowed to toss "loaded language" into the discussion and not likewise get "called on the carpet" for it?? Yes, I did throw the first shot, I make no bones about it that I am pro-union. With that, I will no longer discuss my concerns about "right to work (for less)" vs aneekrs' vague allegations about a "major advance of individual liberty." I am however, glad that Ford is investing in the American workforce.... Edited December 29, 2012 by twintornados Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 THANKS! now where are MKT's & Flexes stamped? The majority of it is done in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Has anyone connected with the plants heard anything about proposed increases? I'm thinking that F150 volume would be the priority here but also understanding that building out volume in other products is equally as important to maintaining pace with the increasing market. How does Ford find room for 12,000 new employees, will that involve significant expansions at existing plants? I'm wondering how Ford accomplishes that while continuing production in the meantime.. I can't speak for every plant that is getting investment, but Wayne ISA is adding onto it's stamping facility to house the new equipment. Kansas City built a new building for it's press line and sub assembly lines. Dearborn Stamping was practically a ghost town with about half of the plant empty. FRAP is currently only running one shift and is projected to have three in just a few years.Most aren't adding floor space, but are reclaiming vacant areas that were abandoned when Ford slashed models and cut production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Can anyone remember the UAW newsletter that was here discussing the last CBA? It mentioned this stuff but now it's official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I can't speak for every plant that is getting investment, but Wayne ISA is adding onto it's stamping facility to house the new equipment. Kansas City built a new building for it's press line and sub assembly lines. Dearborn Stamping was practically a ghost town with about half of the plant empty. FRAP is currently only running one shift and is projected to have three in just a few years.Most aren't adding floor space, but are reclaiming vacant areas that were abandoned when Ford slashed models and cut production. Thanks Pioneer, still good to see Ford adding jobs to US plants, Can anyone remember the UAW newsletter that was here discussing the last CBA? It mentioned this stuff but now it's official. Posted by Aneekr on page 1 ---LINK Edited December 30, 2012 by jpd80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Please refer to the loaded language in post #3. If you'd used the more commonly-used "right to work," there would've been no door opened for the reply in post #4. It's very difficult to disentangle politics and the actions of businesses large enough to exert an effect on the political process. The one hope is that such discussions can be conducted without rancor. You do realize that the term "Right to work" was coined purely for political purposes, no? It is no less political than "death tax" or "pro-life". I think "Open-shop" would be a more accurate and less charged term, but I could be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You do realize that the term "Right to work" was coined purely for political purposes, no? Yes, but it's the one commonly used in neutral reports. The only people I've ever heard refer to it as "right to work (for less)" are partisans in the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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