PREMiERdrum Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) And it looks like a giant CR-V. http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/2016-honda-pilot-this-is-it-1685345002/+andrewpcollins Edited February 12, 2015 by PREMiERdrum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-S Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Typical Blah styling we have come to expect from Honda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) ...fun fact from the 2013 fleet data reports we were pouring over a few months back (if I remember correctly): Honda Pilot had the highest amount of retail sales of any vehicle sold in NA (2013 data). Edited February 12, 2015 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeesh. When I saw the first post and photo, I was like hmmm it really looks like something else...and you nailed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 ...fun fact from the 2013 fleet data reports we were pouring over a few months back (if I remember correctly): Honda Pilot had the highest amount of retail sales of any vehicle sold in NA (2013 data). Because Honda just flat out refuses to do more than a handfull of fleet sales - period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I thought someone lifted an Odyssey at first glance. But after seeing Premier's pic, I think they borrowed a bit from GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Because Honda just flat out refuses to do more than a handfull of fleet sales - period. Yeah, but I'm not talking highest retail percentages...I'm talking highest retail units. (Again going by my failing memory, but I believe it sold more retail than F-Series / midsizers, etc...). I'll break out the chart when I get to work (on phone currently). Of course I might be completely wrong and remembering something different. So don't put too much stock in what I say until I pull out the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeah, but I'm not talking highest retail percentages...I'm talking highest retail units. (Again going by my failing memory, but I believe it sold more retail than F-Series / midsizers, etc...). I'll break out the chart when I get to work (on phone currently). Of course I might be completely wrong and remembering something different. So don't put too much stock in what I say until I pull out the report. That would be surprising.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I thought someone lifted an Odyssey at first glance. Me, too. The front end looks really short in that first shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) That would be surprising.... OK, back at work. So I took this entire report and dumped it into a database and started querying against it. This is what I came up with for retail sales (remember this is 2013 data): Now, this is only as accurate as the data in the linked report. For example, in the linked report from auto-fleet, it says the F-Series had a total of 637k registrations for 2013. Ford's sales reports say they sold a total of 763k F-Series in 2013. Being that these are regsitrations vs sales data, I'm still not quite sure why there's such a large disparity, unless auto-fleet is only including the F-150 and not the larger F-Series (would which mostly be fleet anyway). Either way, quite impressive numbers for the Pilot. I had no clue it sold so well without needing fleet sales. Edited February 12, 2015 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 OK, back at work. So I took this entire report and dumped it into a database and started querying against it. This is what I came up with for retail sales (remember this is 2013 data): Now, this is only as accurate as the data in the linked report. For example, in the linked report from auto-fleet, it says the F-Series had a total of 637k registrations for 2013. Ford's sales reports say they sold a total of 763k F-Series in 2013. Being that these are regsitrations vs sales data, I'm still not quite sure why there's such a large disparity, unless auto-fleet is only including the F-150 and not the larger F-Series (would which mostly be fleet anyway). Either way, quite impressive numbers for the Pilot. I had no clue it sold so well without needing fleet sales. well from wikipedia US pilot total sales 2013 - 126,678 . not that wikipedia is always right but 500k pilot sales seems too good to be true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 ... in the linked report from auto-fleet, it says the F-Series had a total of 637k registrations for 2013. Ford's sales reports say they sold a total of 763k F-Series in 2013. Being that these are regsitrations vs sales data, I'm still not quite sure why there's such a large disparity... Also consider that there are some fleet sales of F-Series where the truck will NEVER be on a public road (i.e. airport runway vehicle, mining operations, etc etc) and not be registered for use on a highway so the registration number will be less than total sales numbers. Just a thought. How many times have you been at an airport and see all those Ford trucks running around the tarmac and no plates on 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 well from wikipedia US pilot total sales 2013 - 126,678 . not that wikipedia is always right but 500k pilot sales seems too good to be true. I was going to say....No CUV or car sells that well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 well from wikipedia US pilot total sales 2013 - 126,678 . not that wikipedia is always right but 500k pilot sales seems too good to be true. Wow, thanks. I just verified that with Honda's official 2013 sales report and that is correct. That entire auto-fleet report is garbage. How the hell did they release that with such glaring faults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeah - those numbers are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY off. It would take Honda 4 years or longer to sell that many pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Wow, thanks. I just verified that with Honda's official 2013 sales report and that is correct. That entire auto-fleet report is garbage. How the hell did they release that with such glaring faults? Might have been a huge typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 It will sell, as it's a huge improvement over the current one, which has an awkward front grille and headlight ensemble. If Honda can sell the current Pilot without much trouble, it should have no problem moving this one. I hope that Honda also addressed the quality of the interior. A friend has a 2013 model, and its interior ambience leaves much to be desired (although he's very happy with the vehicle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Might have been a huge typo? Not sure. That's one helluva typo if so. I wouldn't trust any numbers off of that report at this rate (and to think we had an entire thread discussing the numbers from it back in October) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Not sure. That's one helluva typo if so. I wouldn't trust any numbers off of that report at this rate (and to think we had an entire thread discussing the numbers from it back in October) I think your right, I just looked at Fords numbers and the Escape and Fusion are off by 2K units and the F-series is completely wrong: 763K units vs 637...though that looks like a typo also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Is that Model Year 2013 or Calendar Year 2013? The troublesome part is that the people who put the report together didn't flag that as an outlier and investigate it. It's also possible that the registration data actually shows that many registrations due to some type of anomaly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeesh. I was reminded of the Mercedes GL, myself: OK, back at work. So I took this entire report and dumped it into a database and started querying against it. This is what I came up with for retail sales (remember this is 2013 data): Now, this is only as accurate as the data in the linked report. For example, in the linked report from auto-fleet, it says the F-Series had a total of 637k registrations for 2013. Ford's sales reports say they sold a total of 763k F-Series in 2013. Being that these are regsitrations vs sales data, I'm still not quite sure why there's such a large disparity, unless auto-fleet is only including the F-150 and not the larger F-Series (would which mostly be fleet anyway). Either way, quite impressive numbers for the Pilot. I had no clue it sold so well without needing fleet sales. Nissan sent 70K Altimas to rental fleets? Can't say that's surprising... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Nissan sent 70K Altimas to rental fleets? Can't say that's surprising... I don't know if all of those figures are accurate (listing annual Pilot sales at 500,000 is a huge error that should have been caught quickly), but Nissan has been relying on fleet sales for the Altima and Sentra for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) ...fun fact from the 2013 fleet data reports we were pouring over a few months back (if I remember correctly): Honda Pilot had the highest amount of retail sales of any vehicle sold in NA (2013 data). Here's why: Not gonna win any COTY awards.. but it had a nice classic SUV-look going for it. Edited February 13, 2015 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Here's why: Not gonna win any COTY awards.. but it had a nice classic SUV-look going for it. I highly doubt "classic SUV looks" has anything to do with retail percentage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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