fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 My understanding of that plant is that, with some expansion to paint/body, you could easily run two full speed final lines, but that they do not do so at present because they can't build BIWs fast enough. That is correct. From what I know of the situation that is the plan, but the fusion and mustang will continue to share a line, and the Continental and Taurus will use that second line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Other than lighting which is dictated by national laws, what exactly is the difference between NA and Euro Focus, Fiesta, Escape/Kuga and Fusion/Mondeo? Other than the steering wheel being on the wrong side on some models? At any rate, if Ford wanted to differentiate the Chinese & US Taurses they could easily do so, as they did with the ~2010 Fiesta: http://www.automobilesnext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ford-fiesta-2011.jpg Edited April 10, 2015 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 That is correct. From what I know of the situation that is the plan, but the fusion and mustang will continue to share a line, and the Continental and Taurus will use that second line. Well, if that's the case, then that would explain why the Taurus wouldn't launch simultaneously. Also why Ford would want to hold off on those plans until after the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The answer to your questions are here: How does this look? 2015 – 12 platforms F150 Super Duty Ranger Transit Transit Connect E series B – Ecosport, Fiesta, etc. C – Focus, Escape, C max CD – Fusion, Edge D3/4 – Taurus, Explorer S550 – Mustang Falcon/Territory 2016 – 9 platforms F- series Ranger Transit Transit Connect E series B – Ecosport, Fiesta, etc. C – Focus, Escape, C max CD – Fusion, Edge D3/4 – Taurus, Explorer S550 - Mustang Target – 8 platforms F- series Ranger Transit Transit Connect B C CD6 S550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well, if that's the case, then that would explain why the Taurus wouldn't launch simultaneously. Also why Ford would want to hold off on those plans until after the contract. I can't speak to exactly why because I don't know. My best guess is because Ford wants to wait and see on what the labor cost might be so they can act accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How does this look? 2015 – 12 platforms F150 Super Duty Ranger Transit Transit Connect E series B – Ecosport, Fiesta, etc. C – Focus, Escape, C max CD – Fusion, Edge D3/4 – Taurus, Explorer S550 – Mustang Falcon/Territory 2016 – 9 platforms F- series Ranger Transit Transit Connect E series B – Ecosport, Fiesta, etc. C – Focus, Escape, C max CD – Fusion, Edge D3/4 – Taurus, Explorer S550 - Mustang Target – 8 platforms F- series Ranger Transit Transit Connect B C CD6 S550 Isn't Transit Connect already on the C-platform? Also, don't forget about the Heavy Duty F-650/750 if that's a different platform than 250-550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) I don't think they're counting heavy duty stuff. The picture clearly shows 3 van platforms. If not TC then what is the 3rd? What is the 12th platform for 2015? Edited April 10, 2015 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 That's a good point. Maybe the 1st gen TC was C platform, then this current gen is so heavily modified that it's a whole new platform now. I could be altogether wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How does this look? 2016 9 platforms F- series Ranger Transit Transit Connect E series B Ecosport, Fiesta, etc. C Focus, Escape, C max CD Fusion, Edge D3/4 Taurus, Explorer S550 - Mustang You have 10 listed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) I don't think they're counting heavy duty stuff. The picture clearly shows 3 van platforms. If not TC then what is the 3rd? What is the 12th platform for 2015? Where does that Torneau and/or Torneau Connect come into play? I would doubt their on their own plaform but who knows? Dont they sit between the TC and Transit? Edited April 10, 2015 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Where does that Torneau and/or Torneau Connect come into play? I would doubt their on their own plaform but who knows? Dont they sit between the TC and Transit? I thought it was an offshoot of the Transit Connect that was slotted between that and Transit somehow. I can't make sense of what happens in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I thought it was an offshoot of the Transit Connect that was slotted between that and Transit somehow. I can't make sense of what happens in Europe. I was genuinely asking - I have no idea what platform its on or how it works. I too find it hard to follow Euro operations/platforms, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I was genuinely asking - I have no idea what platform its on or how it works. I too find it hard to follow Euro operations/platforms, etc.Well I think we stumbled on one of the reasons why Ford has a hard time making a profit in Europe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The Tourneo is a Transit with windows and seats, as is the Tourneo Connect. The 7-seat Grand TC is 400 mm longer. IMHO, it should be in NA. http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Tourneo-Connect/Overview If you need to seat up to five people, the all-new Tourneo Connect is the car for you. If you need even more room and seats for up to seven, you need the all-new Grand Tourneo Connect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 So its a different name for the passenger vans than the cargo van. Because that's necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Meh. It's not unprecedented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I've seen cargo work vans labeled as a club wagon..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 You have 10 listed here. Dammit. Maybe TC does go under the C platform. If so then we're missing one platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Tourneo Connect is a variant of the Transit Connect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I've seen cargo work vans labeled as a club wagon..... Don't know what to tell you. Maybe it was a window van that they took the benches & windows out of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Don't know what to tell you. Maybe it was a window van that they took the benches & windows out of? Possibly, it was the company I worked for before Ford, and God knows where they bought their used vans from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) I saw a white Taurus today and thought to myself...... how does something so old still look so fresh? I really dig the Taurus, and if anything it's grown on me since this version came out. Anyone else still think it looks great? Edited April 11, 2015 by probowler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I saw a white Taurus today and thought to myself...... how does something so old still look so fresh? I really dig the Taurus, and if anything it's grown on me since this version came out. Anyone else still think it looks great? Yep. I continue to be impressed at how good it looks considering all the compromises forced upon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I saw a white Taurus today and thought to myself...... how does something so old still look so fresh? I really dig the Taurus, and if anything it's grown on me since this version came out. Anyone else still think it looks great? You guys who really dig this generation of the Taurus should be paying attention in a year or so. You might have one of the best new car buying opportunities of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 You guys who really dig this generation of the Taurus should be paying attention in a year or so. You might have one of the best new car buying opportunities of your life. What do you know about the new Taurus to make a statement like that? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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