PREMiERdrum Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Honda will soon stop making the Ohio-built Crosstour, marking the end of a brief life for a model that never caught on with consumers. Also, in other production news announced yesterday, Honda said it will move work on the Honda Accord Hybrid from Marysville, Ohio, to a plant in Japan. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2015/04/08/honda-to-discontinue-crosstour.html Edited April 9, 2015 by PREMiERdrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2015/04/08/honda-to-discontinue-crosstour.html I didn't realize they were still selling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 But Ford should sell a Fusion wagon in North America. Yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Crosstour will be replaced by a more conventional SUV... more like Edge. http://world.honda.com/news/2015/4150331Auto-Shanghai-2015/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Crosstour will be replaced by a more conventional SUV... more like Edge. http://world.honda.com/news/2015/4150331Auto-Shanghai-2015/index.html You sure about that? From the link... Honda will exhibit the world premiere of a concept model for a new SUV exclusively developed for the Chinese market. With HR-V, CR-V, and Pilot, along with Odyssey and Ridgeline, I think don't see Honda investing in another utility model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 What the hell is HR-V? Never heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 What the hell is HR-V? Never heard of it. New Fit-based small utility. Think Trax, Encore sized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 But Ford should sell a Fusion wagon in North America. Yeah right. I love wagons. I checked out the Crosstour when it first arrived and it didn't have near the practicality of a wagon. The cargo area was cramped and the weird Prius/Aztek/Volt hatch window was useless for visibility. The price was also far too high compared to equivalent models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I love wagons. I checked out the Crosstour when it first arrived and it didn't have near the practicality of a wagon. The cargo area was cramped and the weird Prius/Aztek/Volt hatch window was useless for visibility. The price was also far too high compared to equivalent models. Yet some on this site were using the Crosstour and is mere existence as reasoning as to why Ford needs a wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yet some on this site were using the Crosstour and is mere existence as reasoning as to why Ford needs a wagon. I didn't know that. I left out that it was really unattractive - like a cross between a suppository and what a 70's Chevy Monza would have looked like if they had built a 4-door hatchback. The over-sized grill on the front also didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Crosstour was an atomic bomb. Honda flops too and good to see them cut bait on this pile. Trendy, bubble-like SUV's like Edge/Murano are passe' and out of style, or never were, in Crosstour's case. Ute buyers want more room, not just bloat, in a mid size. Why get something so big with only 2 rows of seats? Murano is out of style too, not selling as well as Rouge and Pathfinder, and Toyota is killing off the Venza/FJ. Edge is past its prime, too. Ford has a whole plant making, in my opinion, dead weight, [Edge, MKX, MKT, Flex], while dealers want more Escapes and Explorers. Why not build what buyers want? I predict the 4 "dealer lot rocks" to be gone in a few years. Edited April 9, 2015 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 What market is the Edge for, anyway? Ford has a whole plant making, in my opinion, dead weight, [Edge, MKX, MKT, Flex], while dealers want more Escapes and Explorers. Why not build what buyers want? I predict the 4 "dealer lot rocks" to be gone in a few years. Are you joking? Have you seen Edge sales numbers? The thing has been a hit from day one and is an important peg in Ford's utility stragegy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Day 1 for Edge was ages ago, and dealers here have posted that they need more Explorers and Escapes, not Edge, which only sold 12k a month last year, down this year. Is that enough for a whole plant? The other 3 products don't justify it. Should make Oakville plant more flexible, to make what sells, and not "pet projects". Question was asked where could Ford build more products that sell to meet demand, well, why not Oakville? No way will they build a new plant in NA again. Edited April 9, 2015 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 New Fit-based small utility. Think Trax, Encore sized. I know that the production HR-V has been unveiled at auto shows, but I don't believe that it goes on sale in North America until later this year, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Ford should bring an HR-V competitor, too. Don't be late to market. And it's a OPINION about Edge, don't get all bent out of shape. If i was Mark Fields, though, I'd give a full audit to that CUV and see if worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Day 1 for Edge was ages ago, and dealers here have posted that they need more Explorers and Escapes, not Edge, which only sold 12k a month last year, down this year. Is that enough for a whole plant? The other 3 products don't justify it. Should make Oakville plant more flexible, to make what sells, and not "pet projects". Question was asked where could Ford build more products that sell to meet demand, well, why not Oakville? No way will they build a new plant in NA again. Dude, put down the pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I know that the production HR-V has been unveiled at auto shows, but I don't believe that it goes on sale in North America until later this year, correct? I asked my Honda dealer - they said it will be arriving in November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Edge is in the middle of a MCE - the 2015 model should do even better than the previous model. New MKX is due later this year. And both will be exported globally from Oakville. There is more than enough product for that plant even without MKT and Flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Day 1 for Edge was ages ago, and dealers here have posted that they need more Explorers and Escapes, not Edge, which only sold 12k a month last year, down this year. Is that enough for a whole plant? The other 3 products don't justify it. Should make Oakville plant more flexible, to make what sells, and not "pet projects". Question was asked where could Ford build more products that sell to meet demand, well, why not Oakville? No way will they build a new plant in NA again. So Ford should walk away from ~144,000 profitable sales "just because?" 144,000 sales in the last year before a complete redesign when obviously sales would be down? Have you seen a Murano lately? Sales of it have dropped because they make it uglier and uglier each generation (how they manage to pull that off, I'm not sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Edge is in the middle of a MCE - the 2015 model should do even better than the previous model. New MKX is due later this year. And both will be exported globally from Oakville. There is more than enough product for that plant even without MKT and Flex. But a plant that only produces one vehicle is useless, don't you know that?* *thats when you ignore DTP, Louiville, and the individual lines in KCAP and KTP. Might as well close Avon Lake as well since the e-series died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Anyway, that Crosstour sure was a toad wasn't it? Ugly to the bone, and made the Aztek look more versitle. What were they thinking? Glad to see it die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Have you seen a Murano lately? Sales of it have dropped because they make it uglier and uglier each generation (how they manage to pull that off, I'm not sure). All so called "crossover" vehicles in the Murano's price and size class (Venza, Crosstour, Edge, Santa Fe Sport, Sorento) look hideous. Nissan just applied the ugly stick more extensively than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder aneekr. Edge volume in the EIGHTH and final year for the platform was 109k. Do you have *any* idea how profitable that vehicle is? If ATPs on that thing are $30k, you're looking at $3.27 billion dollars in revenue from a platform that has been around for eight years, in its final year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Keep going, Edge global sales as wellas MKX Nth America and China sales could push revenue closer to $5 Billion. Add in MKC Nth America and China exports... at least another billion or two.. That's $6 Billion or $7 Billion revenue that someone thinks won't be missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 MKC is a different platform from Edge/MKX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.