rmc523 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Here's the Mercedes truck: Mercedes-Benz unveiled its X-Class Concept, a preview of the German company's upcoming midsize pickup truck. From what we've heard before, Mercedes' first pickup truck shares its platform with the Nissan NP300 Navara and will be powered by a dieselengine. Key markets for the pickup truck include Latin America, Australia, South Africa, and Europe. It doesn't look like there are any plans to bring the vehicle to the US. More pictures can be found here: http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/25/mercedes-benz-x-class-concept-pickup-official/ Edited October 25, 2016 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That is the worst interior I've seen in quite a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 They didn't even try. The truck has the same greenhouse as Nissan Navara. Even the same kink in the window sill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 You would definitely classify this as a lifestyle vehicle. I don't think it's ugly necessarily, but it won't appeal to the traditional truck buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That is the worst interior I've seen in quite a while. It is a concept, I kinda like it...but those vents are too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Not much different than the cla250 which is equally as hideous. https://goo.gl/images/A7O2G8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 But it's "luxury" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 But it's "luxury" Which it means its going to most likely flop. I think Ford has concluded that it can sell a 65K+ Pickup at a Ford dealer no problem, but can't sell that same pickup at a Lincoln dealership. I think one of the drivers of that is that people who buy pickups aren't pretentious enough to require the additional luxury benefits that you might get at a Lincoln or other luxury dealership. Most people buy a luxury car because of its perceived cashe it has within their circle of friends or supposed friends they have. It might be a simple view, but there is lots to it...you can get a high end Ford Ti model or even a Buick that doesn't have the pretentious/cashe that luxury make has, but still has almost the same amenities as them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I actually kinda like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Which it means its going to most likely flop. I think Ford has concluded that it can sell a 65K+ Pickup at a Ford dealer no problem, but can't sell that same pickup at a Lincoln dealership. I think one of the drivers of that is that people who buy pickups aren't pretentious enough to require the additional luxury benefits that you might get at a Lincoln or other luxury dealership. Most people buy a luxury car because of its perceived cashe it has within their circle of friends or supposed friends they have. It might be a simple view, but there is lots to it...you can get a high end Ford Ti model or even a Buick that doesn't have the pretentious/cashe that luxury make has, but still has almost the same amenities as them. While I fully agree with you, you missed my point I was poking fun at the pretentiousness of a lot of luxury buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I actually kinda like it. need to get you on the other side of one of these things: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 need to get you on the other side of one of these things: I actually just went last weekend. Upp'ed my prescription...again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Meh, it's a concept, the details that make it interesting won't be there in production. It's a Mercedes design, I'm sure it'll look good in the end. All trucks, especially in this segment, look exactly the same. Edited October 27, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's nothing more than a lifestyle pickup. Capability takes a back seat to image. It's a way for hipster yuppies to own a truck, but yet say "Hey, its a Mercedes!". It's what we in ND call a "suit pants pickup". Meaning a truck used by people in suits, not by people who actually tow/haul stuff in the back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Meh, it's a concept, the details that make it interesting won't be there in production. It's a Mercedes design, I'm sure it'll look good in the end. All trucks, especially in this segment, look exactly the same. It's a Nissan exterior with a Mercedes grille and interior. The interior is the same as the current Mercedes CLA250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's a Nissan exterior with a Mercedes grille and interior. The interior is the same as the current Mercedes CLA250. ...and door skins are different, the bed outer design, different available drivetrains, suspension changes / tuning, wider track, wheel arch shapes, etc.... Don't be like the Lincoln = Ford bashers. The main shared parts on these trucks are the frame and cab. Most everything else is different or altered. What else can you really do to a truck that they didn't do to differentiate it (apart from designing their own)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I was looking at the kick up in the window sill which is a Nissan design, not a Mercedes design. I'm not bashing them for it, I'm just disagreeing with Borg saying it's a Mercedes design and implying that the interior is just a concept interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) You would definitely classify this as a lifestyle vehicle. I don't think it's ugly necessarily, but it won't appeal to the traditional truck buyer. Don't confuse the concept with the actual truck. X-class is going to be a regular pickup truck that appeals to pickup truck buyers outside US. It is a Nissan Navara afterall if you look beyond the Mercedes badge (which incidentally is not what it means outside the US). But it's "luxury" Like Sprinter is "luxury" It's nothing more than a lifestyle pickup. Capability takes a back seat to image. It's a way for hipster yuppies to own a truck, but yet say "Hey, its a Mercedes!". It's what we in ND call a "suit pants pickup". Meaning a truck used by people in suits, not by people who actually tow/haul stuff in the back... You show an appalling lack of knowledge of how pickup trucks are used outside the US. The short bed is mandatory because vehicle length is often a primary concern. And Mercedes is the world's largest seller of commercial vehicles so "hey, it's a Mercedes" doesn't mean what you think it means. X-Class is replacing the very old and outdated G-class pickup truck/cab chassis. Edited October 27, 2016 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 ...and door skins are different, the bed outer design, different available drivetrains, suspension changes / tuning, wider track, wheel arch shapes, etc.... Don't be like the Lincoln = Ford bashers. The main shared parts on these trucks are the frame and cab. Most everything else is different or altered. What else can you really do to a truck that they didn't do to differentiate it (apart from designing their own)? I doubt it will have different drivetrain or suspension vs. Navara. The concept clearly shows that all the difference are cosmetic vs. Navara - front end, fenders, and exterior skin of the bed. It won't be that much different from the Renault Kangoo to Mercedes Citan transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) The concept does hint at a unique exterior skin for the doors and greenhouse despite sharing a rear window kick-up design from the Nissan. It's possible the concept just smoothed out those signature details from the Nissan but the production car may not be that differentiated. As for the interior, I didn't say anything about it because I know it's a version of other Mercedes interiors in concept-form. I'm sure this is an area where the Mercedes will definitely standout as something a little less cartoonish and more upscale. Edited October 27, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Uh, why does it need to be "upscale" when they're aiming for the euro fleet market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 You show an appalling lack of knowledge of how pickup trucks are used outside the US. The short bed is mandatory because vehicle length is often a primary concern. And Mercedes is the world's largest seller of commercial vehicles so "hey, it's a Mercedes" doesn't mean what you think it means. I'm fully aware of how trucks are sold outside of NA. I honestly could care less. From the comments posted here, I would say Mercedes isn't aware of the needs/wants of the NA market. It'll probably sell less than Nissan trucks do in the NA market. But hey, to each there own. It's not for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 From the comments posted here, I would say Mercedes isn't aware of the needs/wants of the NA market. It'll probably sell less than Nissan trucks do in the NA market. That truck isn't supposed to be sold in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I doubt it will have different drivetrain or suspension vs. Navara. The concept clearly shows that all the difference are cosmetic vs. Navara - front end, fenders, and exterior skin of the bed. It won't be that much different from the Renault Kangoo to Mercedes Citan transformation. They already stated they are going to offer a Mercedes V6 turbo diesel (which I'd venture to be their 3.0) mated to the 4Matic AWD and retuned suspension with a wider track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 They didn't even try. The truck has the same greenhouse as Nissan Navara. Even the same kink in the window sill. That wouldn't be too far fetched as Nissan and MB collaborated on the GLA/CLA/Infiniti QX30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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