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No 3.5L EcoBoost ? How are they going to catch the "bad guys" in the Taurus SHOs ?

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Pretty sure the 3.0EB in RWD form without torque limiting will outrun the older FWD 3.5LEBs.

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WOW !!!

 

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No 3.5L EcoBoost ? How are they going to catch the "bad guys" in the Taurus SHOs ?

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When I first heard that Explorer was going RWD/AWD it made sense to me because of how difficult it is to make a FWD transmission that can handle that much power. The cost of designing and tooling a 8F80 or 10F80 transmission would be enormous.

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Pretty sure the 3.0EB in RWD form without torque limiting will outrun the older FWD 3.5LEBs.

Don't think the 3.5EB could be had with FWD, AWD or RWD.

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Don't think the 3.5EB could be had with FWD, AWD or RWD.

FWD based AWD = transverse layout. The FWD tranny and PTU were the weak spots.

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FWD based AWD = transverse layout. The FWD tranny and PTU were the weak spots.

6F55 was always a "stop gap"

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As far as weak point. PTU yes, 6F50/55 is a good transmission. Cant even compare it to the rest of the 6F family. Especially the 6F35.

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As far as weak point. PTU yes, 6F50/55 is a good transmission. Cant even compare it to the rest of the 6F family. Especially the 6F35.

I didn’t mean it was failure prone - I just meant that they couldn’t handle the full torque of the 3.5EB so it had to be torque limited at lower gears. With the 10 speed RWD trans and AWD system that won’t be an issue.

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I didnt mean it was failure prone - I just meant that they couldnt handle the full torque of the 3.5EB so it had to be torque limited at lower gears. With the 10 speed RWD trans and AWD system that wont be an issue.

Got ya.

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The 3.0L EcoBoost in the Continental is rated at 400 hp and 400 lb-ft. It is coupled with a 6F55 and AWD. It will be interesting to see what kind of power it can make behind a 10R80 and whatever transfer case Ford chooses to use in the new PIU. Probably NOT the same setup as what is in the F150 !

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I hear the hybrid electric motor is in a new transmission and it is suitable for many rwd applications. Ill wait for that.

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I hear the hybrid electric motor is in a new transmission and it is suitable for many rwd applications. Ill wait for that.

 

Yes they'll be using it in Mustang, F150, Explorer and Aviator. Potentially Expedition and Navigator.

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On 7/5/2018 at 7:19 AM, theoldwizard said:

When I first heard that Explorer was going RWD/AWD it made sense to me because of how difficult it is to make a FWD transmission that can handle that much power. The cost of designing and tooling a 8F80 or 10F80 transmission would be enormous.

Isn't the 10R80 almost the exact same size as the 6F55? 

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From what I have read, it is a 10r60 going in the Explorer, not 10r80

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7 hours ago, potatosalad said:

Isn't the 10R80 almost the exact same size as the 6F55? 

10r80 is much longer being RWD.

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1 hour ago, blwnsmoke said:

From what I have read, it is a 10r60 going in the Explorer, not 10r80

First I’ve heard of a 10r60.  That might make sense for the 2.3L (and in the mustang and Ranger) but not for the ST 3.0lEB.

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28 minutes ago, akirby said:

First I’ve heard of a 10r60.  That might make sense for the 2.3L (and in the mustang and Ranger) but not for the ST 3.0lEB.

Just some points of reference.  First 2 screen shots are dealer orders.  3rd is from the link that talks about it.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2020-ford-explorer-teased-in-beijing-will-be-made-in-china-and-chicago-125276.html

 

 

 

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