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6 hours ago, rmc523 said:

The front is a good implementation of the split headlight thing.  The front looks good, the back is meh.

 

The interior is nice, if not busy with that weird reddish brown color.

I agree. Get rid of that weird color on the interior and slope the roofline, and make the back not so upright, and it will look pretty dang good.

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Comprehensive test drive: https://www.autohome.com.cn/drive/202103/1127108-all.html?pvareaid=3311702#p1

 

Goes into a lot of details, including claims that the vehicle was designed by Ford's APAC engineering center in Australia. Google translate indicates the transmission is a 6 speed DCT supplied by SAIC which I was not expecting. Article also mentions at low speed it shifts slowly but smoothly but the 2.0T engine really wakes up at high speed. The suspension is soft and comfortable like "sailing a boat". Overall impression seems very positive.

 

Pricing will be announced on Mar 28 when it goes on sale. 

 

 

Edited by bzcat

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2 hours ago, bzcat said:

transmission is a 6 speed DCT supplied by SAIC

 

 

Wet clutch or dry?  I would hope it is a wet clutch.  Otherwise, they didn’t learn anything from the Focus.

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6 minutes ago, slemke said:

Wet clutch or dry?  I would hope it is a wet clutch.  Otherwise, they didn’t learn anything from the Focus.


Has to be wet clutch.  Dry clutch wouldn’t take the torque of a 2.0T.

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10 minutes ago, slemke said:

Wet clutch or dry?  I would hope it is a wet clutch.  Otherwise, they didn’t learn anything from the Focus.

 

4 minutes ago, akirby said:


Has to be wet clutch.  Dry clutch wouldn’t take the torque of a 2.0T.

https://www.borgwarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/2013/07/18/borgwarner-supplies-dual-clutch-modules-to-automaker-in-china

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4 minutes ago, twintornados said:

Thanks for the link.  That was back in 2013, so not exactly a new design.  Should have the bugs 🐛 worked out by now.

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1 hour ago, slemke said:

Thanks for the link.  That was back in 2013, so not exactly a new design.  Should have the bugs 🐛 worked out by now.


Ford has had wet clutch DCTs in Europe for at least a decade - paired with Diesel engines.

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Puma has a wett clutch DCT transmission

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14 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

Thanks for the link. So Equator has the Borgwarner DCT, just manufactured by the BW-SAIC joint venture. 

 

I have to wonder if Ford is doing this as a deliberate strategy or because it is capacity constrained on its own drivetrain. Mitsubishi 4G20 engine and this BW-SAIC 6 speed DCT are both really outdated tech. It would seem that Ford should be using its own 2.0 EB and 8 speed auto but maybe it just can't get enough of either to supply the projected volume. 

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On 2/3/2021 at 7:13 PM, rmc523 said:

The front is a good implementation of the split headlight thing.  The front looks good, the back is meh.

 

The interior is nice, if not busy with that weird reddish brown color.

For Chineses, the red is a good color. Is a lucky one...  I hate that interior but the horizontal screen that looks stolen from my Mercedes-Benz A-180... 

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8 hours ago, falconlover 1 said:

For Chineses, the red is a good color. Is a lucky one...  I hate that interior but the horizontal screen that looks stolen from my Mercedes-Benz A-180... 

Screen could be stolen..it is China after all :)   Seriously, though, many of the cheap cars seem to be a hodgepodge of outdated parts that can be acquired cheaply.

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13 hours ago, bzcat said:

 

Thanks for the link. So Equator has the Borgwarner DCT, just manufactured by the BW-SAIC joint venture. 

 

I have to wonder if Ford is doing this as a deliberate strategy or because it is capacity constrained on its own drivetrain. Mitsubishi 4G20 engine and this BW-SAIC 6 speed DCT are both really outdated tech. It would seem that Ford should be using its own 2.0 EB and 8 speed auto but maybe it just can't get enough of either to supply the projected volume. 

Or, it's being encouraged to use local engine and transmission to keep costs down and local content high.

Perhaps this is the point at which Chinese CD4 Edge starts to become a grandfathered platform for Ford's

other Chinese brands to use......

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10 hours ago, justins said:

Wheelsboy has a pretty comprehensive review of this...

 

The design is fresh but unmistakably a Ford design and I really dig the red / white interior....also liking the dash integration.

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Love the front end and interior.  Side profile and rear are kinda meh.

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16 hours ago, justins said:

Wheelsboy has a pretty comprehensive review of this -

 

 

Just a note about this review... he pretty much nailed most of it except the 6 seat layout is available initially but 7 seat will be available later. Ford said there will be 7 seats available throughout the range. It's the same on Explorer in China so this is not new either. The 2nd row 2x2 captain chairs cost more than 3 across split bench. 

 

Also I don't think this has been mentioned yet but Equator is FWD only. No AWD available. Probably has something to do with the transmission choice is my guess but I don't know for sure. 

 

Edited by bzcat

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Great review by this guy and I like the direction they are taking their front end designs and hope they go even further. Seeing some comments from the YouTube video and agree that this definitely has a Korean look with some Mercedes on the side profile. 

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Ford reveal the MSRP for Equator. It slots in between Escape and Edge in price so it is definitely a value play... and explains why it doesn't use the more expensive Ford drivetrain.

 

Territory RMB 109,800 - 164,800 ($16,750 - $25,150)

Focus Active RMB 139,800 ($21,335)

Escape RMB 169,800 - 218,800 ($25,900 - $33,390) 

Equator RMB 189,800 - 219,800 ($28,980 - $33,540)

Edge RMB 229,800 - 309,800 ($35,070 - $47,280)

Everest RMB 275,800 - 374,800 ($42,090 - $57,200)

Explorer RMB 309,800 - 398,800 ($47,280 - $60,860)

 

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It’s probably one of the best implementations of the split headlights I’ve seen. I could see that front looking really good on the explorer body.

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On 3/31/2021 at 6:04 PM, bzcat said:

Ford reveal the MSRP for Equator. It slots in between Escape and Edge in price so it is definitely a value play... and explains why it doesn't use the more expensive Ford drivetrain.

 

Territory RMB 109,800 - 164,800 ($16,750 - $25,150)

Focus Active RMB 139,800 ($21,335)

Escape RMB 169,800 - 218,800 ($25,900 - $33,390) 

Equator RMB 189,800 - 219,800 ($28,980 - $33,540)

Edge RMB 229,800 - 309,800 ($35,070 - $47,280)

Everest RMB 275,800 - 374,800 ($42,090 - $57,200)

Explorer RMB 309,800 - 398,800 ($47,280 - $60,860)

 

 

The new lower price 5 seat model starts at RMB 169,800, same price as much smaller Escape.

 

also better photos of the rear bench: https://www.autohome.com.cn/news/202104/1140471.html#pvareaid=102624

 

 

equator price.jpg

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