ice-capades 1,764 Posted November 30, 2020 Nikola and GM revamp deal in new agreement. Companies will develop prototype using GM's Hydrotec fuel cell powertrain. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/nikola-gm-hydrogen-semis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harley Lover 521 Posted November 30, 2020 Gm is no longer taking a stake and the Badger pickup is dead. All deposits to be refunded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmc523 2,911 Posted November 30, 2020 So, I ask again, what is Nikola providing here? If GM is providing the powertrain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby 11,045 Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, rmc523 said: So, I ask again, what is Nikola providing here? If GM is providing the powertrain? Everything else? So GM is moving forward with a hydrogen fuel cell? Didn’t we conclude that hydrogen fuel cells aren’t feasible? I know it’s GM but...... 1 ice-capades reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harley Lover 521 Posted November 30, 2020 I wonder if the fuel cell is of more interest to GM's EV partner, Honda. I don't know hardly anything about the situation in Japan (or Korea) when it comes to EV's, but Toyota seems hellbent for leather to make a go of fuel cells - so perhaps there is the possibility of a supporting infrastructure in Japan for hydrogen? Anyway, the GM fuel cell might give Honda a short cut to be able to compete with Toyota (and Hyundai, which also seem hellbent to develop fuel cells). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmc523 2,911 Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, akirby said: Everything else? So GM is moving forward with a hydrogen fuel cell? Didn’t we conclude that hydrogen fuel cells aren’t feasible? I know it’s GM but...... “Everything else” has shrunk every time there’s news about Nikola. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sullynd 729 Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Harley Lover said: Anyway, the GM fuel cell might give Honda a short cut to be able to compete with Toyota (and Hyundai, which also seem hellbent to develop fuel cells). Huh? Honda has had fuel cell vehicles for years. https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-fuel-cell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rperez817 772 Posted December 1, 2020 10 hours ago, sullynd said: Huh? Honda has had fuel cell vehicles for years. https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-fuel-cell Yes sir sullynd. Also, GM and Honda established a joint venture to manufacture hydrogen fuel (fool) cell systems in 2017. https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2017/jan/0130-tunein.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7Mary3 244 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) On 11/30/2020 at 8:33 AM, akirby said: Everything else? So GM is moving forward with a hydrogen fuel cell? Didn’t we conclude that hydrogen fuel cells aren’t feasible? I know it’s GM but...... Nothing else. The semi truck sans power plant will be sourced from Iveco/CNH. Fuel cells might have an application in long distance heavy trucks. Fuel cells do not necessarily have to use hydrogen........ I think GM wants to supply fuel cell and battery power to heavy truck manufacturers, much as Cummins supplies diesel engines. I think at this point Nikola is just another potential customer for GM. Edited December 1, 2020 by 7Mary3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
