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250K is kind of the magic number now for efficient assembly line utilization unless the vehicle is exceptionally profitable. e.g. fullsize truck plant can probably be below that mark and still swimming in positive cash flow. Oakville (before it went dark), Chicago, Michigan, and Hermosillo are/were operating in that range.
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Was referring to newer vehicles like Toyota Crown and BMW X4 that are much taller than traditional sedans yet not quite normal/common crossovers either. It’s a middle ground that blurs vehicle classes IMO.
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I said small cars, not tiny cars. Early 2000s Civic or Focus size cars are not longer possible under CAFE. But still possible to sell HR-V and Bronco Sport because trucks CAFE is more forgiving.
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Americans in general don’t like small family cars. They buy them because they’re cheap.
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Fair points, but either way, I have a hard time believing the plant is at capacity.
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eh, I think this is an overly simplification of things. By this logic, Fiestas, Mini Coopers, and Fiats would've been selling millions of models per year, but they didn't. Your point about CAFE encouraging larger models is valid, but people kept moving up in size too vs. staying in those small cars.
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They each have their cool design points. I love both the '05 and '17 for their own reasons. The GR-1 is a completely different format (front engine, vs. mid engine), so not really a great comparison.
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By Sherminator98 · Posted
Tesla builds most of their products in a single plant in North America for NA consumption-I think the Cybertruck is in its own plant. I was in it a few years back and it wasn't all that different then old Edison plant (which was tiny for an assembly plant) my dad used to work at. -
By Sherminator98 · Posted
I'd say its more like the 200K range these days, outside of say the F-series plants. -
By Sherminator98 · Posted
Well the problem is that higher seating positions in tall sedans doesn't work too great IMO-My parents 2008 or whatever Sable/Montego was horrible-I felt like I was sitting in a high chair too high up. The post 2010 Taurus refresh cut a couple inches off the roof and I think dropped the seat height an inch or two-That was far better then the Sable/Montego seating positions. It was roughly similar to what my Wife's Escapes seating positions had at the time. I didn't notice how much of a difference it made till I unexpectedly got my brother in laws 2006 Fusion to hold me over till my Bronco came-when I was getting into it felt like I was getting into my old 2006 Mustang GT because the seating position was so "low"
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