If I had to guess as to the poor sales of 650/750, I would say the lack of promotion is the biggest reason sales are what they are.  I would think to the experienced  fleet guy that might be viewed as the kiss of death.   Do I want to invest in trucks that will probably no longer be around in a year or two?   As I've previously mentioned, The New England Ford dealers ran their own add frequently on tv spots highlighting Super Duty capabilities-snow plows- but they also included a 650/750 pulling a tag with a TLB on it. And as to capabilities of the Power Stroke/Ford trans, while I was a skeptic, A friend runs a heavy spec 650 dump- that also pulls his heavy tag trailer- derated to 25,999 to avoid the CDL issue and in his mind the truck is a winner as it is pushing 100,000 miles.   And as Joe mentioned, CT. DOT has them in their  fleet as does Mass DOT. And I have seen them out this past winter on secondary roads with 10/11' plows.

Ford and Unifor reached a tentative agreement tonight. I will present the details when they emerge for those who may be interested.

sounds good.  I'm ready to sell my 2022 F350 King.  My dealer has my new order,  F350 King Ranch again.  Just waiting for Ford to start scheduling.

Wait..costs go down? Lol

I guess we'll let the courts decide that.   HRG

Of course Ford raised the MSRPs, but they do that all the time even before tariffs.  Whether their costs increased due to higher taxes, higher cost of raw materials, higher labor cost or tariffs doesn't matter.  They set MSRP and dealer invoice prices and the consumer negotiates the selling price with the dealer.  There is no line item for tariffs.   Let's say You bought a Maverick last year and this year the government retroactively charged Ford $1k per Maverick sold last year due to an error. Would you owe Ford that $1k?  Of course not.  Likewise you're not entitled to a refund if their costs go down retroactively.

Long McArthur reported last week that 2027 Super Duty retail builds are now being scheduled at KTP for weeks 10AUG-24AUG.  I ordered last month and I suppose there is a large queue ahead of us 🥴

Oooh, actually, that's a really good catch. I'm going to blame being awake too early at work on a Saturday... and "Ford Math". Here's what I was working with, initially looking just at the red circled "just the truck" numbers. What I missed on the 2024 is that we still had to add $3500 for the Tremor package itself. Oops. That said, we can apples-to-apples the other trims as well here. They've definitely gone up, although it can sometimes get masked as well in whether or not hybrid gains a credit or incurs a cost, if AWD is standard or not, credits for taking front drive, and other Ford Math shenanigans.

Sue Trump, not Ford!

Ben, I'm not seeing the $6K price increase. Below are window stickers for my 2024 Lariat Tremor, and a 2026 Tremor, adding the sliding back window that is now an option.  What am I missing?  $2640, yes, but not $6K.   HRG     2024 Maverick Lariat Tremor TJH 09302024.pdf 2026 Tremor WS with back window.pdf