ANTAUS Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 LINK-Detroit News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecon Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 The plant is working 3 shifts, the launch is late and still the dealers have no vehicles. What a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 The plant is working 3 shifts, the launch is late and still the dealers have no vehicles. What a mess. Well if you read the article, you would see that Conrail is on strike, kind of hard to get the vehicles there without some form of transport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Well if you read the article, you would see that Conrail is on strike, kind of hard to get the vehicles there without some form of transport! That would have been too much like right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecon Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Well if you read the article, you would see that Conrail is on strike, kind of hard to get the vehicles there without some form of transport! I wonder how Toyota is transporting their vehicles? Or Honda, or GM, or Chrysler? I will give you a hint: trucks. Only Ford is shutting down plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Well if you read the article, you would see that Conrail is on strike, kind of hard to get the vehicles there without some form of transport! CN not Conrail, but yes that is a huge problem, Ford as had to suspend production at St Thomas at points during the strike. The railroad union is fighting with itself (there are 2 different factions) along with the company -- its a huge disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I hope this is only temporary. I actually rode in an Edge to work the other day (I carpool). Nice, nice, nice. :shades: If I was in that target market I would be going for one. Much better than the Pacifica, Equinox, etc. IMHO. Slightly lacking on the interior but a great ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim kakouris Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 plenty of edge's at dealerships here in missouri. they had 4 at the dealership where i bought my freestyle alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Where's all those 2007 Tundras? No media stories about them being "late", and "messed up". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charly Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I wonder how Toyota is transporting their vehicles? Or Honda, or GM, or Chrysler? I will give you a hint: trucks. Only Ford is shutting down plants. It must be horrible having a half empty glass....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSFan00 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I'll only buy vehicles from non-UAW plants. Is this plant UAW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I wonder how Toyota is transporting their vehicles? Or Honda, or GM, or Chrysler? I will give you a hint: trucks. Only Ford is shutting down plants. It wasn't a vehicle transport issue, it was materials. Why would they shut down a plant due to vehicles piling up when there are typically overflow lots to park them in? I also did not see any reports where Honda or Toyota confirmed that this was not effecting then. Sometimes I wonder why you even bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Not in my area. The lots are full of them. One dealer in Toledo has 23 of them. Are you using the dealer online inventory? They show future vehicles they are getting in, not what they have in stock. I've seen this happen with the 05 Mustang, where they say they have a half dozen and they are lucky to have one in the lot. The dealership about 10 minutes from me had 3, 2 Coffee Colored models (SEL and SE) and an Orange one. The Orange one moved right away...the other two are still there 2 weeks later.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecon Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It must be horrible having a half empty glass....... I thought you would be busy helping with those hundreds of layoffs at OAC. How come in the Windsor plants thousands of workers are layed off and none of the union reps lose there job? Maybe that is why your glass is so full? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Nope. Using my fingers, toes, and other extremities (:lol:) to count them as I get my oil changed. Thought you would get stuck at 21 then :P Edited February 23, 2007 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecon Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It wasn't a vehicle transport issue, it was materials. Why would they shut down a plant due to vehicles piling up when there are typically overflow lots to park them in? I also did not see any reports where Honda or Toyota confirmed that this was not effecting then. Sometimes I wonder why you even bother. So how are these other plants receiving there parts? Hint: Trucks. Most plants here no longer deliver parts directly by train to the plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 So how are these other plants receiving there parts? Hint: Trucks. Most plants here no longer deliver parts directly by train to the plants. Regardless, your post had to do with vehicle transport not inbound materials. Having worked 5 years as a mainframe engineer for GM's Just-In-Time inventory system, GM receives quite a bit of materials via rail. I'd also like to point out that trucks can be just as troublesome as troublesome to use at times as rail can be. Unless you know how much material is stockpiled at each automaker vs. what Ford does, how can you even comment on that. If ion hand inventory varied from plant-to-plant at GM, I would think it would be the same from automaker-to-automaker. So until you have first hand knowledge otherwise, you're statements can be considered false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecon Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Regardless, your post had to do with vehicle transport not inbound materials. I was of course responding to this. Please read the posts. Quote Silvrsvt Well if you read the article, you would see that Conrail is on strike, kind of hard to get the vehicles there without some form of transport! Having worked 5 years as a mainframe engineer for GM's Just-In-Time inventory system, GM receives quite a bit of materials via rail. I'd also like to point out that trucks can be just as troublesome as troublesome to use at times as rail can be. Unless you know how much material is stockpiled at each automaker vs. what Ford does, how can you even comment on that. If ion hand inventory varied from plant-to-plant at GM, I would think it would be the same from automaker-to-automaker. So until you have first hand knowledge otherwise, you're statements can be considered false. Well I know the Chrysler plant in Windsor is having no problem receiving parts and they build more vehicles than St. Thomas and OAC together. The rail seems to be a unique problem to Ford. Edited February 23, 2007 by Bluecon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I hope this is only temporary. I actually rode in an Edge to work the other day (I carpool). Nice, nice, nice. :shades: If I was in that target market I would be going for one. Much better than the Pacifica, Equinox, etc. IMHO. Slightly lacking on the interior but a great ride. The equinox is much much much cheaper with incentives than the edge, I know they are similar but I don't see them really competing. I see the Murano as its only real competition in its segment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 But, given size classes, interior space, and value, the equinox will be cross shopped against the edge to a certain extent. What the edge will have over the equinox is a much better motor, better handling, and more style. I believe that the mpg ratings are ballpark. But, then, Ford offers a better competitior to the equinox in the escape. So, if the buyer balks at the price on the edge, then just show them the escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well I know the Chrysler plant in Windsor is having no problem receiving parts and they build more vehicles than St. Thomas and OAC together. The rail seems to be a unique problem to Ford. That still doesn't address on hand inventories. Nor does it break down what or where the part is coming from. I'd also have to agree with DCK regarding the alignment of the Edge and Murano. If anything the Equinox should be cross shopped with the Escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAC_Sparky Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well I know the Chrysler plant in Windsor is having no problem receiving parts and they build more vehicles than St. Thomas and OAC together. The rail seems to be a unique problem to Ford. You have to consider the locations where the parts are sourced from to make that assertion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inteller Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 ive seen two edge's here. It looks like crap in Silver. orange looks good but not many people will be buying that. They need InfraRed....it would look good in Malibu blue too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokomo M/W Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Not in my area. The lots are full of them. One dealer in Toledo has 23 of them. Just curious,I use to work at the old Jeep plant several years ago about the time they were gearing up for the Liberty at their new plant, wondering if you knew if the old plant is still operating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Thought you would get stuck at 21 then :P nice one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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