MKII Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 (edited) why do people complain just for the sake of complaint....I don't understand....they fix the problems you used to have and you find minor new ones...I'm sure if you fixed those you would find more....even less important ones I see in your sig line that you are in tropical Manitoba, were heated seats are not a popular item. My complaint is based on my preference of having heated seats in my vehicles, and the choice to have heated seats with cloth seats, as I do not like leather seats. Ford offers heated seats in the Taurus, its not a special or rare option for this variant. So why not give the consumer the choice,whether it be leather or cloth, just seems "odd". I guess in Fords opinion, you are not allowed the same comfort as the person that favours leather seats. Edited May 31, 2007 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the heated seats only with leather is done to simplify ordering and build configuring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_sallad Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 ... tropical Manitoba... Is that a joke? I find options and packages in vehicles a pretty complicated issue. One extreme would be to offer vehicles as fully customizable, a blank slate and pick and choose absolutely any options you want. I guess the reason they don't offer that is that building the vehicles with so many different combinations of options would be less efficient at the factory, the workers having to do something differently on every car. So they try to group options into packages of things that people are likely to want at the same time. I'm glad I'm not the person who's job is to figure out these packages and options and stuff, sounds like a boring and frustrating job. And apparently their work is not very well appreciated on these boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamFord Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Well if you are looking for the clock on the 08 Taurus, here are the parts you need. 8G1Z-54046A62-BA (mdlg on dash with hole for clock) 8G1Z-15000-A (Clock itself) But you will have to wire it up yourself, the dash harness is with or without clock specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Greetings, I would think a cold weather package would be appropriate in any F150, SUV, Sedan, and Wagon. Really makes sense to me. maybe they don't do it because they know something we don't, or maybe we know something they don't... Perhaps they could add the Clock to the cold weather package also? I also think that haveing rain-sensing wipers would be one of those few things that make a sedan stand out from the pack. But I have no idea how much that costs? Anyone? Peace and Blessing Well heated seats OEM cost is about $70, Rain-sensing windshield wipers are about $40, Headlight washers about $90, and a Heated steering wheel about $50, throw in a heated driver-side door lock for $35 and mirrors are $10. So for about $300 in OEM cost you could add that equipment, and charge $600 to $700 for it. I wouldn’t do it al-a-cart -- this is the weather package this is what you get, keeps the options simple, In Canada, and the northern US it would be very popular especially if they advertised it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattak1 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Well heated seats OEM cost is about $70, Rain-sensing windshield wipers are about $40, Headlight washers about $90, and a Heated steering wheel about $50, throw in a heated driver-side door lock for $35 and mirrors are $10. So for about $300 in OEM cost you could add that equipment, and charge $600 to $700 for it. I wouldn’t do it al-a-cart -- this is the weather package this is what you get, keeps the options simple, In Canada, and the northern US it would be very popular especially if they advertised it. Greetings, Sounds good to me. I know that when I have looked at BMW's and Subaru's they have winter packages. I would at least like to add aftermarket rain-wipers... Peace and Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 Yeaaaaaa! Drove by my Ford dealer today but no such luck. Been wondering when they might start to hit. As soon as I buy a house I will be looking this baby over and I expect to buy one. Is it as high as the 500s? Thanks. Peace and Blessings I take it you mean height of floor boards and roofline. I was lucky to see the new Taurus next to 2007 500 and the height is exactly the same. That is my favorite feature of Taurus/500. You sit up about 3 inches higher than conventional car and have more command view of road. Ford needs to advertise that more. You get best features of truck with its command view and good gas mileage of sedan. One thing I forget to check is where they put new nameplate. I can't believe I forgot to check that out. I noticed SEL name on back trunk and Limited name on other one, but failed to notice where the name Taurus was put. I assume on trunk, but forgot to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattak1 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I take it you mean height of floor boards and roofline. I was lucky to see the new Taurus next to 2007 500 and the height is exactly the same. That is my favorite feature of Taurus/500. You sit up about 3 inches higher than conventional car and have more command view of road. Ford needs to advertise that more. You get best features of truck with its command view and good gas mileage of sedan. One thing I forget to check is where they put new nameplate. I can't believe I forgot to check that out. I noticed SEL name on back trunk and Limited name on other one, but failed to notice where the name Taurus was put. I assume on trunk, but forgot to check. Greetings, Yea. I was not very clear. I was indeed talking about drive height. I also like the fact that the 500/Taurus sits a few inches higher. My wife also feels safer having a better view of the road and traffic a head. And unlike a Camry or any Toyota it does not have the exhaust pipe hanging down underneath to have to look at. Personally, I would just pop off those tags. But the Ford one on the rear. Probably on the truck, in a molded divit made just for the oval... Peace and Blessings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 But you will have to wire it up yourself, the dash harness is with or without clock specific. That seems silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Dealer by me has 2007 Five Hundreds with 'no haggle' price stickers on them sitting in front. They are FWD models priced between $20K and 22K. No Monorey [MSRP] stickers though to compare. [no new Tauri, yet, cant wait] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 why do people complain just for the sake of complaint....I don't understand....they fix the problems you used to have and you find minor new ones...I'm sure if you fixed those you would find more....even less important ones In a way that's a good thing though, isn't it? The smaller these gripes become, the better the overall product has become. If Ford only had little gripes like this on all the vehicles they sold, wouldn't they be much better off? Continuous improvement is how the Japanese got where they are. It looks like Ford is on the same path with several of their vehicles. They just need to expand that philosophy to every vehicle in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Leather is optional on SEL my biggest beef: ... the SEL has "integrated" head restraints in the back - while the Limited has a very nice adjustable ones .... I think that is the stupidest piece of the Taurus. VVV SEL Rear head restraints. If the Taurus Limited uses the same rear head restraints as the Five Hundred Limited's, well I'd prefer the integrated head rests. The movable headrests aren't as comfortable and look like a tacky add-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 If the Taurus Limited uses the same rear head restraints as the Five Hundred Limited's, well I'd prefer the integrated head rests. The movable headrests aren't as comfortable and look like a tacky add-on. Taurus Limited uses these Head restains: I have to admit, I never sat in the rear of a FH so I cannot comment on the comfort - but from SAFETY point of view - the fixed head restraints are probably MUCH less safe for most people than the adjustable ones (if adjusted properly) Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donzuchowski Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 NOW I WANT TO F"IN SCREAM....now its all about a F"IN clock...ARGGGGGGGGGGG!....will someone look at their damn watch........Thankyou fordbuyer ...the radio is ALSO fine...some damn non spoiled sense for a change!.....sheesh! wonder if Funk master flex or chip fuse will do a version of the new Taurus? I think if both of them did seperate ones it would be cool and then if they also did one together you could mix hip hop and old school rock together.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppermine33 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Taurus Limited uses these Head restains: I have to admit, I never sat in the rear of a FH so I cannot comment on the comfort - but from SAFETY point of view - the fixed head restraints are probably MUCH less safe for most people than the adjustable ones (if adjusted properly) Igor Igor, I agree with you 100%. Personally, I think that the integrated head restraints look tacky and out of place while the adjustable ones look upscale and luxurious. Ive sat only in five hundreds with adjustable read head restraints and they were fine although I must say that I never lean back while sitting in a car, front or rear seat. I would not buy a 500/Taurus without adjustable rear head restraints not because they are not as safe, but because they look dumb and I wouldnt stand lookingin the rearview mirror an having two protruding mounds of foam taunting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 the fixed head restraints are probably MUCH less safe for most people than the adjustable ones (if adjusted properly) Igor Makes me wonder what percentage of adjustable head restraints in cars are actually adjusted properly for the seat occupant. I would venture to guess it's in the single digits. There's something else for Volvo to work on: infrared sensors in the head restraint that measure you head location and continuously adjust the height of the restraint as appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaboosh Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 This vehicle is on the lot in Franklin,TN Disclaimer: This window sticker is only representative of the information contained on an actual window sticker, and may or may not match the actual window sticker on the vehicle itself. Please see your retailer for further information. Vehicle Description VIN 1FAHP25W68******* TAURUS 2008 FWD LIMITED 3.5L V6 DURATEC ENGINE 6-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION Exterior ALLOY CLEARCOAT METALLIC Interior CAMEL LEATHER SEATING Standard Equipment INCLUDED AT NO EXTRA CHARGE EXTERIOR . 18" BRIGHT ALUMINUM WHEELS . CHROME 3-BAR GRILLE . FOG LAMPS . AUTO HEADLAMP OFF DELAY . CHROME POWER, HEATED, FOLDING EXTERIOR MIRRORS INTERIOR . 8-WAY POWER DRIVER'S SEAT . AUDIOPHILE 6CD/MP3/SUBWOOF . DUAL ELEC AUTO TEMP CNTRL . MESSAGE CENTER . OUTSIDE TEMP/COMPASS DSPLY . WOODGRAIN INTERIOR ACCENTS . LEATHER TRIMMED SEATS . HEATED DRIVER/PASS SEATS . 4-WAY POWER PASSENGER SEAT WITH MANUAL LUMBAR FUNCTIONAL . FRONT WHEEL DRIVE . TRACTION CONTROL . POWER WNDOWS/LOCKS/MIRRORS . POWER STEERING . 8 CUP/BOTTLE HOLDERS . 20 GALLON FUEL TANK SAFETY/SECURITY . PERSONAL SAFETY SYSTEM . FRONT SEAT SIDE AIRBAGS . SAFETY CANOPY - 2 ROWS . ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM . TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR SYS . LATCH CHILD SAFETY SYSTEM . SECURILOCK PASS ANTI THEFT . OCCUPNT CLASSIFICATION SYS . REMOTE PERIMETER LIGHTING . RMT KEYLESS ENTRY W/KEYPAD WARRANTY . 3YR/36,000 BUMPER / BUMPER . 5YR/60,000 POWERTRAIN . 5YR/60,000 ROADSIDE ASSIST Price Information MSRP STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE $26,845 Key Standard Equipment ORDER CODE 120A Optional Equipment 2008 MODEL YEAR ALLOY CLEARCOAT METALLIC CAMEL LEATHER SEATING .3.5L V6 DURATEC ENGINE .6-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION .P225/55R18 BSW TIRES LIMITED CONVENIENCE PACKAGE 475 .UNIVERSAL GARAGE DOOR OPENER .REVERSE SENSING SYSTEM .CARGO NET .MEMORY ADJUSTABLE PEDALS POWER MOONROOF 895 ADVANCE TRAC ESC 495 SIRIUS SAT RADIO W/6 MOS SVC 195 18" 7-SPOKE CHROME WHEEL 695 __________ TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS 29,600 DESTINATION & DELIVERY 750 TOTAL MSRP $30,350 Disclaimer: Option pricing will be blank for any item that is priced as 0 or "No Charge". This vehicle qualifies for auto insurance discounts, call 1-866-367-3131 or visit www.fordautoinsurance.com for availability in your state. Estimated Annual Fuel Cost:$1,809 CITY MPG 18 HIGHWAY MPG 28 Vehicle Engine Information 2008 TAURUS FWD, 3.5L ENG., 4 VALVE DOHC V6, FUEL INJECTION, CATALYST, 6 SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION Actual mileage will vary with options, driving conditions, driving habits and vehicle's condition. Results reported to EPA indicate that the majority of vehicles with these estimates will achieve between 14 and 22 mpg in the city and between 23 and 33 mpg on the highway. For Comparison Shopping all vehicles classified as LARGE have been issued mileage ratings from 10 to 21 mpg city and 14 to 31 mpg highway. Ford Extended Service Plan is the ONLY service contract backed by Ford and honored by over 5,100 Ford and Lincoln-Mercury retailers. Ask your retailer for prices and additional details or see our website at www.Ford-ESP.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Makes me wonder what percentage of adjustable head restraints in cars are actually adjusted properly for the seat occupant. I would venture to guess it's in the single digits. There's something else for Volvo to work on: infrared sensors in the head restraint that measure you head location and continuously adjust the height of the restraint as appropriate. See the good things about Volvo head restraints is that when they are in the raised and upright position they provide head protection for probably all but a small percentage of the population. If the restraints are folded down they fall forward forcing the rear passengers to extended them upwards and use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 If the restraints are folded down they fall forward forcing the rear passengers to extended them upwards and use them. Another good thing: There's a button on the dash that folds the back headrests forward. Nothing like administering a Three-Stooges-esque smack on back seat passengers by remote control :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napoleon Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I been meaning to take some pictures of the holding lots at the assembly plant, they have a few thousand cars waiting to be delivered. Engineers have been driving the hell out of these cars, lots of people are taking them home over the weekend to make sure everything is ok with them too. I never remember seeing so many tauruses out on the street getting tested like this. I hope they're beating the $hit out of them too so any little problem will surface and get taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 As long as Ford keeps doing this with their cars............ The last thing they need is a repeat of past mistakes where they stop taking the drugs as soon as they start feeling better (e.g. pioneering customer research and team methodologies with the Taurus, and then abandoning them instead of applying them across the corporation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I been meaning to take some pictures of the holding lots at the assembly plant, they have a few thousand cars waiting to be delivered. Engineers have been driving the hell out of these cars, lots of people are taking them home over the weekend to make sure everything is ok with them too. I never remember seeing so many tauruses out on the street getting tested like this. I hope they're beating the $hit out of them too so any little problem will surface and get taken care of. Have you talked to anyone that has driven one, or have you driven one yourself? Any driving impressions you might be able to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdy1s Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 how in the hell does a taurus cost $30,000. When ford stated that the new taurus was starting at 24,000 i knew that they were not serious about selling cars. They are trying to sell outside of ford's market. What happened to all of the savings from having the supplier park on site? Just like the fusion being made in Mexico. If we the workers eat up so much of ford's profits, why does the fusion top out at 26,000? Aren't they saving money by making it in Mexico? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Err... have you priced an Impala or an Avalon? IIRC the Avalon can hit 40K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
694doorbird Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Most of the 500 owners I talk to complain about the under powered engine. Is Ford using the same in the Taurus? Or, did Ford get smart and give it more performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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