twintornados Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The "it'll tow 11,000 lbs" story kinda reminds me when Goodyear introduced the Gatorback "V" speed rated tires and every one clamored of , "Why on earth would you need tires that can handle sustained driving speeds of 130MPH ....?" The point is, that if the tire can handle those speeds safely, it can withstand daily use at posted limits with zero problems.....same goes for F150.....sure it can tow up to 11K Lbs., it also makes for towing a 5K load that much safer since the truck is engineered way past that safely. Think people......think. I am sure Dodge will sell alot of those new Rams...and I hope they steal alot of sales from Toyota as American truck buyers come back home to American brands....but will it take Fords slot? Not even with the plant that makes it running three full shifts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) i will be buying the 09 ram..inetrior is far superior to the f150 and the truck just looks better..towing...lmao..i haul a 4-wheeler and a load of dirt now and then...trying to sell the f150 by tow rating sounds like dealer salesman bullshit..i tow..i want a super duty not an f150..ford needs to hire a few interior engineers from toyota like dodge did..ford interiors are pathetic You want the guy that designed this: http://images.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pic...a+dash_view.jpg to ruin this:? http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/FordF150p...=thumb1280x1280 http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/FordF150L...=thumb1280x1280 (Nav system picture) The F-150 looks MUCH better than the hideous Tundra, both inside and out. Edited January 26, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Only a retard will attempt to believe Ford and tow 11000lbs in an F-150..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Vic Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 How are those Tundra tailgates holding up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 How are those Tundra tailgates holding up? How are those "declining across the board "Ford sales holding up? How is that declining stock price holding up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The "it'll tow 11,000 lbs" story kinda reminds me when Goodyear introduced the Gatorback "V" speed rated tires and every one clamored of , "Why on earth would you need tires that can handle sustained driving speeds of 130MPH ....?" The point is, that if the tire can handle those speeds safely, it can withstand daily use at posted limits with zero problems.....same goes for F150.....sure it can tow up to 11K Lbs., it also makes for towing a 5K load that much safer since the truck is engineered way past that safely. Think people......think. I am sure Dodge will sell alot of those new Rams...and I hope they steal alot of sales from Toyota as American truck buyers come back home to American brands....but will it take Fords slot? Not even with the plant that makes it running three full shifts..... They are thinking. Your analogy applied works like this. This Z rated tire is rated to sustained speeds at 130 mph, while this other Z rated tire is rated to sustand speeds of 120 mph. i.e. 11,000 pounds versus 9,000 pounds. Well I know I'm never going to be driving my sports car anywhere near 120 or 130 for a sustained time so both will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) How are those "declining across the board "Ford sales holding up? How is that declining stock price holding up? Actually, Ford stock was up 0.32 points, or 5.39% today to close at $6.58. And those declining sales are beginning to end. Edited January 26, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 i will be buying the 09 ram..inetrior is far superior to the f150 and the truck just looks better..towing...lmao..i haul a 4-wheeler and a load of dirt now and then...trying to sell the f150 by tow rating sounds like dealer salesman bullshit..i tow..i want a super duty not an f150..ford needs to hire a few interior engineers from toyota like dodge did..ford interiors are pathetic congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 congratulations where did i mention toyoda?..another brain dead ford uaw worker playing on the puter...learn how to build a high quality, high reliable truck then get back to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossed Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 How are those "declining across the board "Ford sales holding up? Why don't you go play in the ROAD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Right... I know MANY F-150 owners that wouldn't fathom to tow 9,000 pounds with their F-150 let alone 11K. I know people around here that tow WAY too much with many different vehicles. Occasionally there is a need for it. There is not always a need for a HD truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 where did i mention toyoda?..another brain dead ford uaw worker playing on the puter...learn how to build a high quality, high reliable truck then get back to me you mentioned Toyota in post #15. But don't bother editing it as people have already quoted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 They are thinking. Your analogy applied works like this. This Z rated tire is rated to sustained speeds at 130 mph, while this other Z rated tire is rated to sustand speeds of 120 mph. i.e. 11,000 pounds versus 9,000 pounds. Well I know I'm never going to be driving my sports car anywhere near 120 or 130 for a sustained time so both will be fine. Both will be fine for you. Not for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 They are thinking. Your analogy applied works like this. This Z rated tire is rated to sustained speeds at 130 mph, while this other Z rated tire is rated to sustand speeds of 120 mph. i.e. 11,000 pounds versus 9,000 pounds. Well I know I'm never going to be driving my sports car anywhere near 120 or 130 for a sustained time so both will be fine. OK....lets see, a "Z" rated tire can handle sustained speeds of 149+ MPH, if you compared "Z" rated tires, they BOTH can handle speeds of 149+ MPH, so your analogy is a bit off, but your reasoning is similar to the morons that tried to replace those expensive GatorBacks with a lesser speed rated tire that cost less money....guess what they found out, that the car handled and performed way differently at posted limits than with the OE spec tire. You see, the entire vehicle dynamic was altered when they put on the lower priced and lower speed rated (and in most cases, lower quality) tire. In conclusion, while both vehicles may be "fine" as you state, the Fords ability to safely handle up to 11K Lbs will outshine Dodges ability to handle up to 9K Lbs when both are towing a "mere" 5K load...the principle that while the Dodge has already gone past the half way mark in max towing capacity, the Ford will not be nearly as stressed since it is handling less than half its rated towing rate. C'mon....fire up those brain cells...I know you can do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) because itis a lame ass excuse for trying to reason why the f150 is better then then new dodge ram...... So, ability and capability is "lame ass" but, "who's got the prettiest interior..." isn't? If your opinion is that the Dodge has a sharper interior, so be it, but the Ford has better capabilities.....time will tell. Edited January 26, 2008 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Vic Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I agree. I think the Ram will steal sales from all trucks, but it won't run with the F-150, it's capabilities are the major limiting factor, IMO. You left out the fact that it's a Dodge. Dodge will never be the number one seller of trucks. There's too much inertia to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Wow, here we are already into page 3 and still not one person has come forward and said "I tow 11,000 pounds regularly with my F150 and this is what I tow." I think that pretty well puts and end to this argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCaylor Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I think some people here are under the assumption that ALL F-150s are capable of towing 11000 pounds. If you check the Ford towing guide, you'll see there is only ONE version of the F-150 that can. It's an XL reg cab with an 8 foot box and the Heavy Duty Payload package. It comes with HD frame, springs, shocks, wheels, cooling, differential and 4.10 gears. So, yes, that one model could tow 11000 pounds. Most of the other F-150s are rated in the 8K to 9.5K range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 You left out the fact that it's a Dodge. Dodge will never be the number one seller of trucks. There's too much inertia to fight. Meh. I remember in the 80's people saying that none of the foreign cars would ever outsell the Big 3. That it was a passing fad. Yes there is the inertia factor and I don't think this Ram will outsell the new F150 - immediatly. But I do think Dodge has a hit on it's hand and who knows what will happen 5 years down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 where did i mention toyoda?..another brain dead ford uaw worker playing on the puter...learn how to build a high quality, high reliable truck then get back to me He was congradulating you. And what do you think the F-150 is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 So, ability and capability is "lame ass" but, "who's got the prettiest interior..." isn't? If your opinion is that the Dodge has a sharper interior, so be it, but the Ford has better capabilities.....time will tell. I think the F-150 has the nicer interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 You want the guy that designed this: http://images.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pic...a+dash_view.jpg to ruin this:? http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/FordF150p...=thumb1280x1280 The F-150 looks MUCH better than the hideous Tundra, both inside and out. Not much left to ruin. The only thing that would make the F-150 interior worse is more buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I think some people here are under the assumption that ALL F-150s are capable of towing 11000 pounds. If you check the Ford towing guide, you'll see there is only ONE version of the F-150 that can. It's an XL reg cab with an 8 foot box and the Heavy Duty Payload package. It comes with HD frame, springs, shocks, wheels, cooling, differential and 4.10 gears. So, yes, that one model could tow 11000 pounds. Most of the other F-150s are rated in the 8K to 9.5K range. ...now that is interesting. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 ...now that is interesting. :shades: Why that would mean that aside from some rare, obscure, specialty package version, the F150 is just like (GASP!!!!) the Dodge!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 (edited) Why that would mean that aside from some rare, obscure, specialty package version, the F150 is just like (GASP!!!!) the Dodge!!!!! :hysterical: Edited January 27, 2008 by 96 Pony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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