mkizlvr Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 2009 Ford Flex crash test and side impact (NHTSA) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBoa_1Fe5Dg add another 5 star crash test rated car to the Ford lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
range Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 did you notice how the emergency flashers turned themselves on automatically after the side impact? Thats part of the new safety system. Yes, thats another 5 star crash test added to the manufacturer that has more 5 star crash tests than any other. Frontal Driver Rating Frontal Passenger Rating Side Driver Rating Side Rear Passenger Rating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I can't believe that a car can go through a crash test and get such little damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 If anyone saw the crappy X flies movie, it really showed how well the Taurus holds up in a crash. Ford might get some sales just from that one scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I can't believe that a car can go through a crash test and get such little damage. Vehicles are designed for these crash test. I would like to see something more random like a rollover test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Vehicles are designed for these crash test. I would like to see something more random like a rollover test. Vehicles are designed for that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Too many vehicles are achieving 5 star now. They need to add 6 and 7 star so we can see who is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) Too many vehicles are achieving 5 star now. They need to add 6 and 7 star so we can see who is best. I think that they should instead create a new 5 star system, much like the EPA created a new system for fuel mileage. Make it harder to get 5 stars. Edited August 2, 2008 by suv_guy_19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Too many vehicles are achieving 5 star now. They need to add 6 and 7 star so we can see who is best. That's what the IIHS is there for: They have more stringent tests. Hardly anyone gets all 'good's from them. For instance the "large family car" category: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01FOCI Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 What you people can look at is the actual numbers related to a impact. The human body can withstand certain amounts forces without breaking ect... The statistics say that a 5-star rated vehicle will give you a 10% chance or less of being seriously injured. Without analyzing the input criteria we do not know the demographic of the people they researched for this but its fair to say the average healthy adult is 90% likely not to experience any major injuries. Now lets look at the '09 frontal crash numbers: Lower is better... Flex: Head Injury Criterion 223 326 Chest deceleration (g's) 47 36 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 607 / 425 536 / 727 Competition: Honduh Pilot: 5*both Head Injury Criterion 271 374 Chest deceleration (g's) 42 44 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 402 / 629 599 / 659 Honduh Odyssey:5* both Head Injury Criterion 249 333 Chest deceleration (g's) 36 40 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 367 / 753 886 / 754 Toiletota Highlander: 5*both Head Injury Criterion 378 557 Chest deceleration (g's) 39 44 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 365 / 589 604 / 605 Toiletota Sienna: 4* driver 5*pass Head Injury Criterion 473 404 Chest deceleration (g's) 45 39 Femur load l/r1 (lb) 829 / 774 826 / 770 If we wanted a statistically significant comparison we would have to crash no less than 30 of each type of vehicle plus the control group to make any mathematical determination but conjecture is always fun. The Flex driver femur load is almost double that of the Odyssey but the Flex pass is much better managed than that of the Odyssey. In fact with the exception of the with a 4* driver all the crapanese products appear to not care as much about the pass whereas in the Flex the pass is better protected than that of the driver in all but HIC. So final conjecture verdict? As usual Ford continues to care about whole car crash dynamics as demonstrated in real world crash scenarios. Perhaps someone will take the time to compare side impacts? There is a reason crapanese products have been called tin cans in the past... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 did you notice how the emergency flashers turned themselves on automatically after the side impact? Thats part of the new safety system. Yes, thats another 5 star crash test added to the manufacturer that has more 5 star crash tests than any other. Frontal Driver Rating Frontal Passenger Rating Side Driver Rating Side Rear Passenger Rating That is impressive how the front door is basically still very structurally sound from looks of above picture. That means the full force of crash never got to the driver compartment. The more I see of the Flex the more I like it. I wouldn't mind owning one, I like it that much. Looks like great vehicle for long trips and just about everything else. I'm pretty sure I could pull 26-27mpg out of it on trip no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryQW Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 That is impressive how the front door is basically still very structurally sound from looks of above picture. That means the full force of crash never got to the driver compartment. The more I see of the Flex the more I like it. I wouldn't mind owning one, I like it that much. Looks like great vehicle for long trips and just about everything else. I'm pretty sure I could pull 26-27mpg out of it on trip no problem. Except for the shell, the Flex is very similar to my Taurus X. You can see the crash test videos of the T-X on Ford's web site. I was impressed that even with all the compression of the front end during a frontal and offset collision, the windshield only got a little crack but didn't break. The tires stayed inflated, and everything from the firewall back looked fine. At the same time you see the car fill up with approprate air bags while the outer shell structure remains intact and solid. It's impressive and shows you how very safe the cars have become. Like the Flex the Taurus X is also rated for 24 MPG on the highway. If I stay at 65 MPH and lower on near level highways, I can get 26-27 MPG average. Coming back from Tahoe to San Jose, I got 26.5 MPG over the 400 mile trip, even with four bikes on the rear rack and a couple traffic jams of about an hour each. Without the jams, I might of been in the 28-29 MPG range. Commuting to work that's 70% highway, I'm getting 23-25 MPG combined average over the entire week. The ecoboost coming out next year should improve mileage by 25% - or up over 30 MPG for this big people mover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 "did you notice how the emergency flashers turned themselves on automatically after the side impact? Thats part of the new safety system." This is something I wondered why Ford hasn't got to yet. It's not hard to tell computer, "When airbags pop, turn on flashers"....BMW has had that for years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
range Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) "did you notice how the emergency flashers turned themselves on automatically after the side impact? Thats part of the new safety system." This is something I wondered why Ford hasn't got to yet. It's not hard to tell computer, "When airbags pop, turn on flashers"....BMW has had that for years... Well BWM might want to license Ford's technology, you would think BWM could get their flashers to activate after a scripted crash test, but they don'tt go on like the Flex's did in this test. Again no flashers BMW 3 Series BMW may also want to rethink their level of safety provided by their cars. The 2008 BMW 5-Series gets 3 stars from the Feds for the driver in the frontal crash test. The 2008 BMW 3 Series gets 4 stars for the driver and passenger in the frontal crash test. Edited August 3, 2008 by range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Vehicles are designed for these crash test. I would like to see something more random like a rollover test. Ford's alleged "Safest Car in America" only got 4 stars for that test (NHTSA), but ol' reliable, the 's got 5 stars on that one. :stats: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Before you go congratulating yourself on your wonderful insight, remember this.............. there is no such thing as an actual rollover test. As far as I can remember, all it is, is a mathamatical equation. Thus, noone really knows, now do they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
range Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Ford's alleged "Safest Car in America" only got 4 stars for that test (NHTSA), but ol' reliable, the 's got 5 stars on that one. :stats: You don't seem to be very informed about rollover information. What you incorrectly referred to as a "test" is not a test. Suggest you go back and reserach that a little better. You also seem to be be ignorant to the rollover safety features with the Taurus , vis a vis the . The Taurus has : 1) a roll stability control system 2) an industry exclusive system using two gyroscopic sensors that measure both Yaw and Roll axes 3) exclusive collision and rollover activated side curtain air bags featuring "roll fold" technology 4) Safety Canopy designed to stay inflated for several seconds, as rollover events often take longer than frontal collisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 You don't seem to be very informed about rollover information. What you incorrectly referred to as a "test" is not a test. Suggest you go back and reserach that a little better. Oops...I'll rephrase, rollover ASSESSMENT for those playing from home. You also seem to be be ignorant to the rollover safety features with the Taurus , vis a vis the . The Taurus has : 1) a roll stability control system 2) an industry exclusive system using two gyroscopic sensors that measure both Yaw and Roll axes 3) exclusive collision and rollover activated side curtain air bags featuring "roll fold" technology 4) Safety Canopy designed to stay inflated for several seconds, as rollover events often take longer than frontal collisions. 5) Still one less star than the ancient Panther platform for rollover on NHTSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I'm impressed the front end sucks in that damage without it being translated over to the driver. Then again, a crash probably costs a heck of a lot in bodywork with one of these babies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 5) Still one less star than the ancient Panther platform for rollover on NHTSA. Yes, the star says the Taurus is slightly more likely to roll over. However, that star says nothing of which will actually be safer if a rollover happens to occur. I would put my money on the Taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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