Griffin Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 It's only flopping because the cost of labor to produce what would be a $18,000. car produced in japon or any other country. also the gas milage compared to a scion xb is less . I use my xb as a rolling office complete with computer,stand and a printer . I like the boxie shape of the scion because it makes a great rolling buildboard for my company and being 6'1 200 lbs I needed leg room . Same reason I like the flex and its bigger. I could see paying what they want for it if only it where a hybrid or got better milage. I average 110-150 miles aday all on back roads and within 2o miles of my home I needed a vehicle that gets good milage makes a good build board and is comfortable to drive the flex almost made it . Hmmm last time I looked at the Honda/Toyota dealer ships there car's were far from cheap. The car is yes overpriced because the company wants to make 15kus per vehicle profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Many, many people have made the Flexy = xB comparison. Anybody who doesn't see the similarities is blind. What because they essentially have right angles?? My, I hope you would be able to make that determination. Fine you don't like it. I think we all get that now, but who cares. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theripper Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 give the car a little time before you pronounce it dead. two, three months is worthless data for a new model. if we're still having this conversation in january, then we'll talk failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 give the car a little time before you pronounce it dead. two, three months is worthless data for a new model. if we're still having this conversation in january, then we'll talk failure. Its obvious that your new around here....options outweigh facts around this place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Its obvious that your new around here....options outweigh facts around this place Truer words have never been spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Its obvious that your new around here....options outweigh facts around this place "options outweigh facts around this place" especially when the option is stupidity. People who choose the stupidity option generally leave out the facts. It's easy to figure out who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 "options outweigh facts around this place" especially when the option is stupidity. People who choose the stupidity option generally leave out the facts. It's easy to figure out who they are. Good one Edstock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 It's only flopping because the cost of labor to produce what would be a $18,000. car No, the reason it's production costs are so high are because of all the ever increasing R&D tied up in the continually failing nameplates on that platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 No, the reason it's production costs are so high are because of all the ever increasing R&D tied up in the continually failing nameplates on that platform. Man, it seems like every post you make is somehow tied to D3. Again what is so horrible about that platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Couldn't be the 1998 styling of the Town Car, eh? But you're right....maybe Ford needs to spice up the Town Car commercials.....oops wait a min.... Obviously it needs to be restated what a FAILure the D3s are and continue to be with EVERY new incarnation. Of course, the BON :cheerleader: s continue to be totally oblivious to it. I personally don't have an issue with the Flex, it's not horrid or anything. It's just not..."original"....like...at all. I've said it before, it's done up like a lowered Range Rover with a mini-Cooper paint scheme. Personally, I think if it was priced around $25K instead of the current $40K, and offered sliding doors, it would rock the minivan world that it should be targeting, instead of the Explorer world that it fails miserably against. But that's just my .02 cents. I do need another FAIL pic, the aforementioned just fits SO well though. I got 1500 more on hand to choose from. :happy feet: um...it can be bought for close to 25k...so what the hell is your point?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 To be fair the Flex does look like a cross between a Range Rover and a Mini Cooper. yeah...and thats a bad thing???????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I've been a critic of the Flex since they dropped the suicide doors from the prototype,and I saw the dealer pricing. I really want this vehicle to be a success,hopefully it will catch on and the economy will get some traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Again what is so horrible about that platform? The fact that every vehicle that has ridden on it has failed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 The fact that every vehicle that has ridden on it has failed? define failed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I've been a critic of the Flex since they dropped the suicide doors from the prototype,and I saw the dealer pricing. I really want this vehicle to be a success,hopefully it will catch on and the economy will get some traction. If it had suicide doors, where would the required by law B pillar go? And if door accidently comes open at speed with kids in back seat, where do you think the door is going to go. Rumble seats were cool too and so were hardtops, but our government outlawed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 where would the required by law B pillar go? What law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 What law? Side impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Side impact you sure?...witness F-150 supercab.........or even the FJ Toyota.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 define failed... anything NOT Body on frame, anything FWD, alone with anything unable to tow, brakestand get 40mpgs costs more than 20k, has anything other than a V8, be able to sustain a 75 mph rear impact, hasn't been around for decades to attain bug free status, be sold fleet only and intimidate people when seen in the rear veiw mirror....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 you sure?...witness F-150 supercab.........or even the FJ Toyota.... Not a law per say...makes it more difficult to pass the Side Impact standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Not a law per say...makes it more difficult to pass the Side Impact standards I would think so...probably more so on 4 FULL size doors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 you sure?...witness F-150 supercab.........or even the FJ Toyota.... Did you ever wonder why Hardtops disappeared many years ago? It was a great look with missing B pillar. Sedans were boring, but hartops were cool. My '62 Ford Galaxie 500 that I had in college was a hardtop, and liked the look with windows down. The B pillar forces every vehicle to be a sedan. Not sure how convertibles got around it. My Mustang 5L Convertible was technically a hardtop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Did you ever wonder why Hardtops disappeared many years ago? It was a great look with missing B pillar. Sedans were boring, but hartops were cool. My '62 Ford Galaxie 500 that I had in college was a hardtop, and liked the look with windows down. The B pillar forces every vehicle to be a sedan. Not sure how convertibles got around it. My Mustang 5L Convertible was technically a hardtop. More bracing in the doors and floorpan. It's not impossible or illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefstang Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Jesus, P. Just stop it. Some one logs in to a Ford forum, and says they like Fords, and you jump all over them right off the bat. I'm real sure belittling them on their first few posts is real productive to keeping someone around with maybe something worth saying. You just sit here and bitch at anything anybody says all day. Quit your whining and bickering, get the sand out of your vagina, and in the words of my mother:"If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything at all." This forum has turned into the argue with the same three douchebags all day long show, and it's gotta stop. Any information shared here amongst us turns into the Armada-P71 attention getting, how can I argue that the sky is red bitchfest. It's ok if mommy didn't pay enough attention to you, but we shouldn't have to listen to you cry all day. Just. Stop. And no, I'm not one bit surprised that you get your rocks off in your Crown Vic because people think you're a cop. Not ONE bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Jesus, P. Just stop it. Some one logs in to a Ford forum, and says they like Fords, and you jump all over them right off the bat. I'm real sure belittling them on their first few posts is real productive to keeping someone around with maybe something worth saying. You just sit here and bitch at anything anybody says all day. Quit your whining and bickering, get the sand out of your vagina, and in the words of my mother:"If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything at all." This forum has turned into the argue with the same three douchebags all day long show, and it's gotta stop. Any information shared here amongst us turns into the Armada-P71 attention getting, how can I argue that the sky is red bitchfest. It's ok if mommy didn't pay enough attention to you, but we shouldn't have to listen to you cry all day. Just. Stop. And no, I'm not one bit surprised that you get your rocks off in your Crown Vic because people think you're a cop. Not ONE bit. Cheif not um smoking peace pipe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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