kyle Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I don't get the complaints about the Ford interior at all, it's hands down the best interior I've ever seen in a truck. I thought that too until I sat in the Dodge truck. It is in another league (higher end models) for materials, content and to me fit and finish. I have always been a Ford guy but if I was in the truck market today (I have owned at least 12 trucks) it would be a hard decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I don't get the complaints about the Ford interior at all, it's hands down the best interior I've ever seen in a truck. The complaints I've read of center mostly on the dash top being hard plastic. Bling for blings sake....those King Ranches are bad taste personified.......Lariat is quite enough. Hmmm, well 5-6 or the 8 or so new F-150s I've seen were Platinum models, so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The complaints I've read of center mostly on the dash top being hard plastic. All Ford Trucks are like that. They have been for years and no one (who bought them) has cared yet. Its partly because its a truck. You should see what happens to the soft touch stuff in some chevys. It just gets destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 All Ford Trucks are like that. They have been for years and no one (who bought them) has cared yet. Its partly because its a truck. You should see what happens to the soft touch stuff in some chevys. It just gets destroyed. I understand that, I'm just telling you that every complaint I've read/watched (video) about the F-150's interior involves the dash top being hard and looking like plastic (which it is). All the reviewers seem to love everything else about the interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 All that effort put forth towards making an uber luxurious truck and somehow someone forgot to add torso airbags (even as an option). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 All that effort put forth towards making an uber luxurious truck and somehow someone forgot to add torso airbags (even as an option). Are you talking about Ram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The complaints I've read of center mostly on the dash top being hard plastic. what exactly do people want? To return to the vinyl covered foam dashes of the 70s and 80s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 what exactly do people want? To return to the vinyl covered foam dashes of the 70s and 80s? Yeah, I mean it's the top of a dashboard. It's not a mattress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Are you talking about Ram? Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 what exactly do people want? To return to the vinyl covered foam dashes of the 70s and 80s? I guess..... I for one, don't really lean either way.....I like it'd be great to have a dash using material like on Flex (you can push it in with your finger) (and it arguably should be ona $40K+ truck), but at the same time it is a truck, and it's already really nice, so it's not that important either. Yeah, I mean it's the top of a dashboard. It's not a mattress. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yup I hate Ram's interior 'oversized' theme.....the center console lid is HUGE and the console itself (area to put stuff in) isn't all that big. Also, the gear selector is gigantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) That link came from MSNBC, and so did the opinion. The same network that has DOUCHEBAGS on it. That alone gives me reason not to believe anything they say. Edited February 25, 2009 by Bored of Pisteon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) what exactly do people want? To return to the vinyl covered foam dashes of the 70s and 80s? Why not? They're more durable than this cheap shit plastic interiors in cars now! What about nice comfortable seats on top of it! Sit inside a 1972 Ford LTD with Brougham seating and you'll know what I'm talking about! Edited February 25, 2009 by Bored of Pisteon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goingincirclez Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why not? They're more durable than this cheap shit plastic interiors in cars now! What about nice comfortable seats on top of it! Sit inside a 1972 Ford LTD with Brougham seating and you'll know what I'm talking about! Unfortunately I'll beg to differ there. The dashes on my 97 tbirds (and others I have access to) are all pretty "hard"... but still 100% intact after going on 13 years now. By contrast, the Fox-body (83-88) Tbirds and Cougars I've been around - including my own '88 - virtually all had split and cracked dashes even before that age. My 75 Lincoln may well be made of carboard, the materials in that car are hideous. (Kinda redefines that concept of "faux lux" that was discussed here a while back; in may cases the "faux" was as genuine if not even superior to the "real" lux.) I'll grant you, I still prefer the softer dash of the earlier cars. I know I shouldn't care and it has no discernible benefit - I just "seems" better somehow. Actually even the '97's have kind of a softer texture to them (I guess using a more durable vinyl and foam) than current cars. But, as for a truck: A truck does not need ultra-cushy materials. A hard yet functional dash woudl suit me just fine. Except for possibly a 50K Lariat or King Ranch, where I could see a need for extra refinement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Unfortunately I'll beg to differ there. The dashes on my 97 tbirds (and others I have access to) are all pretty "hard"... but still 100% intact after going on 13 years now. By contrast, the Fox-body (83-88) Tbirds and Cougars I've been around - including my own '88 - virtually all had split and cracked dashes even before that age. My 75 Lincoln may well be made of carboard, the materials in that car are hideous. (Kinda redefines that concept of "faux lux" that was discussed here a while back; in may cases the "faux" was as genuine if not even superior to the "real" lux.) I'll grant you, I still prefer the softer dash of the earlier cars. I know I shouldn't care and it has no discernible benefit - I just "seems" better somehow. Actually even the '97's have kind of a softer texture to them (I guess using a more durable vinyl and foam) than current cars. But, as for a truck: A truck does not need ultra-cushy materials. A hard yet functional dash woudl suit me just fine. Except for possibly a 50K Lariat or King Ranch, where I could see a need for extra refinement. My general comparisons were of the materials then compared to the shit they use now. A truck is a truck period. But there is a cheapness factor compared to what they were even back in the 1990's. I'll grant you that. IF I wanted comfortable seats in a truck. I'd take the factory ones out and install RECARO Air-Ride bucket seats in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 A truck is a truck period. But there is a cheapness factor compared to what they were even back in the 1990's. F-series interiors in the 80's and 90's were AWFUL compared to the ones now, in both design and quality. My best friend had an '88 F-150 in high school that I spent a ton of time in. That interior was garbage throughout. My brother's '01 interior puts it to shame in every respect. I haven't spent enough time in the newer ones to compare to the '01 yet, but based on what I've seen in other vehicle interiors all over the industry, I would have to assume the new F-150 interior is also better than the '01 hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I don't think much can be done with the dash cap between trim levels. I think it's too expensive to change the molds out for a premier treatment. Edited February 25, 2009 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I don't think much can be done with the dash cap between trim levels. I think it's too expensive to change the molds out for a premier treatment. all this about the top of the dash????...hell anyone remember how the "softies" used to split? don't like the hard plastic dash top...get a dash cover....Fords F-150 interior IS excellent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I don't think much can be done with the dash cap between trim levels. I think it's too expensive to change the molds out for a premier treatment. Could always do what they did with the Shelbys and add a leather mat kind of deal or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 F-series interiors in the 80's and 90's were AWFUL compared to the ones now, in both design and quality. My best friend had an '88 F-150 in high school that I spent a ton of time in. That interior was garbage throughout. My brother's '01 interior puts it to shame in every respect. I haven't spent enough time in the newer ones to compare to the '01 yet, but based on what I've seen in other vehicle interiors all over the industry, I would have to assume the new F-150 interior is also better than the '01 hands down. Well, pretty much any interior from the 80's or 90's is crap compared to the ones out now. To put things in perspective, I had both a 1988 Ford F-150 and also a 1994 F-150 XLT Supercab 5.8. The 94 was such a tremendous upgrade (both interior and exterior-wise) that is was shocking they were both basically the same truck. In terms of the competition, my brother had just got an uplevel 1994 Ram and compared to my same year F-150 XLT, the interiors were pretty even in styling and ergonomics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKRACER Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 MSNBC Link Maybe I am just in a hurry, but I read this article twice and saw no mention of the F-150 tailgate step and the side steps on the cargo box. Did I miss this or did this idiot ignore it because he was gushing so much about the coil sptings and the storage bins in the side of the Dodge bed?? GM tried coil springs in the back and weren't they lousy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 GM tried coil springs in the back and weren't they lousy?? Yes, they did..............40 years ago. You'd be surprised at how all sorts of tech that was used 40 years ago has improved since. Sorry, but that argument (bringing up GM's attempt at coils half a century ago) is just plain silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Let's see what Matt thinks about the new F-150 compared to the Silverado over on autoblog (yes I know I posted this on another thread, but it is just too good!) VIDEO: Mike Rowe takes on dirty job of comparing full-size pickups {Autoblog} Jan 28th 2009 1:40PM Well anemic engines is only half the story. I hate the way they look...new, ugly grille with carryover parts from the front fenders back, Ford's reliability issues, lack of customer support, dealing with the Ford dealers...the worst on the planet, lackluster fuel economy, and the size of the truck...it is way too big and heavy. I'll stick with a truck that does everything the Ford can do...only better. The Silverado is a much better truck inside and out...which is why it is sitting in my garage. No matter how much Ford pads their towing and payload figures, it cannot hide the fact that it is an inferior truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yes, they did..............40 years ago. You'd be surprised at how all sorts of tech that was used 40 years ago has improved since. Sorry, but that argument (bringing up GM's attempt at coils half a century ago) is just plain silly. I think Ford could answer the Dodge "coil spring" setup simply be rolling out the F100 with a coil rear setup. It would not cannibalize F150 sales and attract those types of customers.....you know, the ones that want a truck....but complain about it being too "truck-like" (go figure...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I think Ford could answer the Dodge "coil spring" setup simply be rolling out the F100 with a coil rear setup. It would not cannibalize F150 sales and attract those types of customers.....you know, the ones that want a truck....but complain about it being too "truck-like" (go figure...) I think that until Ram sales make any headway into F150 sales, Ford doesn't really need to. Not necessarily sitting on their laurels, but personal pickup sales have stagnated to the point where this may not make the difference unless there was a huge surge of Ram sales because of this feature. Don't get me wrong, I think adding the coil springs was a great idea and could have made a big difference sales-wise. If it was done 5-6 years ago during the peak of the personal pickup craze. Even though the coil springs still make for enough towing for virtually anyone buying a half ton pickup....the dumb numbers tend to sell these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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