MY93SHO Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 What a bunch of idiots! I see the Head Doofus P71 is spreading his usual crapola. I love how people are bitching because the price is higher than they paid in 1989! News Flash! Everthing costs more than 1989! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 What a bunch of idiots! I see the Head Doofus P71 is spreading his usual crapola. I love how people are bitching because the price is higher than they paid in 1989! News Flash! Everthing costs more than 1989! Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Couldn't find an SHO article, but they gave the Fusion Sport a decent review: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-20...d-fusion-sport/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critic Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) P71_CrownVic : March 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm The Malibu is the better car. Mainly because of looks. Ford really has to ditch this unhealthy obsession with the three bar grille. It looks terrible on the Fusion…and everything else that has worn it. The pricing is all wrong as well. 33K for a loaded, mid-sized Ford??? Hello Ford…you are not Toyota or Honda…you cannot charge those kind of prices for your products. And a 6 year old Focus called…it wants it's back end returned. P71_CrownVic : March 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm As far as pricing goes, I agree that if the domestics are going to be competitive it is imperative that the huge rebates and discounts from MSRP stop. The 2010 Fusion is just as good if not better than the Camry/Accord, so pricing it to compete makes sense. Ford is not going to recover by playing Hyundai pricing tactics. I can see where one would think that, but here is the sad truth. The 2010 Fusion is a reskin. It is a carry-over car that has received slight tweaks for the new model year. The core Fusion is the same car that we have seen for years. It still has SYNC, it still has AWD, it still has awkward styling, etc. The 2010 model will not do much to boost the Fusion’s overall sales. And the reason for that is very simple; Ford overcharges for their products. We saw that with the Flex, MKTauruS, and we will see that with the Fusion. Looking at the sales numbers, the VAST majority of people would rather pay MORE and get LESS for a Honda or Toyota than spend the same amount on a Ford. People don’t car that they would be getting a few more electronic gimmicks on the Fusion, they refuse to spend that kind of money on a Ford…and rightly so. Ford completely forgot how to build a competitive car in the late 90’s and most of the 2000s. Meanwhile, Toyota and Honda kept quiet and continued to build a solid customer base and providing value in a way where now…even though the new Fusion and Malibu are better cars, people are not willing to pay the same prices. People are speaking with their money…and they prefer the Camry, Accord, and Malibu over the Fusion. Edited April 2, 2009 by Critic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial...ho-me-the-money Edited April 2, 2009 by MY93SHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 P71_CrownVic : March 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm The Malibu is the better car. Mainly because of looks. Ford really has to ditch this unhealthy obsession with the three bar grille. It looks terrible on the Fusion…and everything else that has worn it. The pricing is all wrong as well. 33K for a loaded, mid-sized Ford??? Hello Ford…you are not Toyota or Honda…you cannot charge those kind of prices for your products. And a 6 year old Focus called…it wants it's back end returned. P71_CrownVic : March 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm As far as pricing goes, I agree that if the domestics are going to be competitive it is imperative that the huge rebates and discounts from MSRP stop. The 2010 Fusion is just as good if not better than the Camry/Accord, so pricing it to compete makes sense. Ford is not going to recover by playing Hyundai pricing tactics. I can see where one would think that, but here is the sad truth. The 2010 Fusion is a reskin. It is a carry-over car that has received slight tweaks for the new model year. The core Fusion is the same car that we have seen for years. It still has SYNC, it still has AWD, it still has awkward styling, etc. The 2010 model will not do much to boost the Fusion’s overall sales. And the reason for that is very simple; Ford overcharges for their products. We saw that with the Flex, MKTauruS, and we will see that with the Fusion. Looking at the sales numbers, the VAST majority of people would rather pay MORE and get LESS for a Honda or Toyota than spend the same amount on a Ford. People don’t car that they would be getting a few more electronic gimmicks on the Fusion, they refuse to spend that kind of money on a Ford…and rightly so. Ford completely forgot how to build a competitive car in the late 90’s and most of the 2000s. Meanwhile, Toyota and Honda kept quiet and continued to build a solid customer base and providing value in a way where now…even though the new Fusion and Malibu are better cars, people are not willing to pay the same prices. People are speaking with their money…and they prefer the Camry, Accord, and Malibu over the Fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critic Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial...ho-me-the-money P71_CrownVic : March 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pm I think this so called SHO is another half-assed attempt from Ford. It does NOT have a Yamaha engine It is NOT affordable. It does NOT offer a manual It is NOT the groundbreaking car the 1989 SHO was You MUST have AWD (the correct way would have been RWD) And it is NOT efficient. The G8 GT has V8 power from it’s V8 powerplant, and gets the SAME mileage as the V6 powered SHO. Ford is dreaming if they think that this silly Ecoboost nonsense is efficient. It simply is not. GM has more efficient pushrod engines… P71_CrownVic : March 28th, 2009 at 1:18 pm Why doesn’t the SHO offer the Yamaha 4.4L V8 like the S80? Because Ford does not have the first clue on how to make an efficient engine. GM gets the same gas mileage out of a 6.0 V8, that Ford does out of a 3.5 V6. My loaded crew cab Silverado with the 5.3 and 3.42 rear gears gets the same mileage as my previous Ford Crown Vic with a 4.6 V8 and 3.27 rear gears. There is ZERO reason as to why the Lincoln MKTaurus and new (faux) SHO do not have V8s. ------------------------------------------------ He has the audience he has always wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Critic: May I ask a favor? Stop posting P71 quotes. I'm losing brain cells left and right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Negatards gotta do what they gotta do. The author tried to dump all over the SHO; the readers who supported it were an interesting sign that perceptions are changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkapeGote Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Sup, Why are we giving this poster child for birth control any cred here. He is stupid, a liar, uninformed, uneducated, and just has a hate on for Ford. This topic should be closed, I feel dirty just being in here. This f*** should go gargle on the diarrhea his mom forgot to wipe off the toilet and then wash it down with what is leaking from his backside after his dad got done with him. Close this so we do not have to suffer, if I wanted to hear a retard I would watch an episode of "Life goes On" Skape Edited April 2, 2009 by SkapeGote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You MUST have AWD (the correct way would have been RWD) :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Because the '89 SHO was RWD Super FAIL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goingincirclez Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Fer chrissakes, why don't we just erect a monument to that clown on this site? I mean you ban the guy, but then actively troll for and repost his garbage here? WTF is that about? Is he banned for real? Or all you all going to continue assisting his perverse pleasures? I imagine he's fapping at all the attention he still gets here months later (he can lurk after all). He's PWNED you all all every time you go through the trouble to repost, redirect, and discuss his tripe back here on this site. So can we all quit looking like fools for a while? Or why not just unban him already? Edited April 2, 2009 by goingincirclez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critic Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Critic: May I ask a favor? Stop posting P71 quotes. I'm losing brain cells left and right.... Yes sir, I totally understand.. won't happen again. I had him on ignore on here and nothing has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critic Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sup, Why are we giving this poster child for birth control any cred here. He is stupid, a liar, uninformed, uneducated, and just has a hate on for Ford. This topic should be closed, I feel dirty just being in here. This f*** should go gargle on the diarrhea his mom forgot to wipe off the toilet and then wash it down with what is leaking from his backside after his dad got done with him. Close this so we do not have to suffer, if I wanted to hear a retard I would watch an episode of "Life goes On" Skape But how do you really feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Fer chrissakes, why don't we just erect a monument to that clown on this site? I mean you ban the guy, but then actively troll for and repost his garbage here? WTF is that about? Is he banned for real? Or all you all going to continue assisting his perverse pleasures? I imagine he's fapping at all the attention he still gets here months later (he can lurk after all). He's PWNED you all all every time you go through the trouble to repost, redirect, and discuss his tripe back here on this site. So can we all quit looking like fools for a while? Or why not just unban him already? I agree. We should move on and quite dwelling on his moronic posts. Edited April 2, 2009 by TomServo92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 My 2 cents: TTAC boards are the only ones that put up with him. Autoblog recognizes him for what he is. And with that, Skape's post as POTW? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Because the '89 SHO was RWD Super FAIL! He must be thinking of the rare and elusive 1989 SHO Crown Victoria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial...ho-me-the-money I like how the Taurus suddenly rides on it's own platform... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Wow, and comparing a large car, to a compact 335i...amazing the amount of inaccurate and inconsistent rhetoric people seem to post. I mean, just say "I dont like it"...but to try to justify a position by using half truths and misinformation is just reckless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm not even going to dignify this article with a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I just don't get why they didn't upgrade the brakes, sporty cars costing 10k less come with nice stuff such as Brembo's, and the brakes on the pedestrian version have had complaints, with all that power they are using the same brakes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 P trolls the gm truck forum as well bashing the f150. I dont pay any attention to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I just don't get why they didn't upgrade the brakes, sporty cars costing 10k less come with nice stuff such as Brembo's, and the brakes on the pedestrian version have had complaints, with all that power they are using the same brakes?? Um care to back that up? Gotta love this one from our own Taxman 100 he posted: Ford’s obsession with the D3 platform caused them to starve their real moneymaking, unique product - the Panther platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkapeGote Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sup, I don't know why people are complaining about the price, I mean seriously. According to this article Aformentioned article here the SHO cost about $24,000 dollar. Pretty hefty for the time. Now if you go here Inflation Calculator and use this inflation Calculator, input $24,000 in 1989 you get $41069.61. Now I have checked this against several inflation calculators. I have gotten number from $37,000 - $42,000 dollars. So would someone tell me why everyone is complaining about the price. It is on par with 1989 - 90. Skape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Sup, I don't know why people are complaining about the price, I mean seriously. According to this article Aformentioned article here the SHO cost about $24,000 dollar. Pretty hefty for the time. Now if you go here Inflation Calculator and use this inflation Calculator, input $24,000 in 1989 you get $41069.61. Now I have checked this against several inflation calculators. I have gotten number from $37,000 - $42,000 dollars. So would someone tell me why everyone is complaining about the price. It is on par with 1989 - 90. Skape Heck, I recall seeing SHO's peaking over $30,000 in 1998. That comes out to about $39,000 or so in today's dollars using the calculator you provided. Sounds about right to me. Edited April 2, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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