chevys Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 is confirmed and the numbers are............ http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/30/2011-fo...a-2009-preview/ :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yes!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 No word on the 5.0L numbers yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 No word on the 5.0L numbers yet? Not yet. Hold on to your britches though cause I think its going to be good news. :hyper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus05 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Are they just holding out on the 5.0 until like Detroit? Or will we see it this week in LA? Or will we not see the 5.0 until August? It seems to me like they are positioning the Mustang as the American alternative to the 370Z or G37 coupe. Similar weight profile, now similar power, better mileage. Probably similar acceleration with the 3.31 and similar driving characteristics. How long until Ford starts comparing it directly to the Nissan and Hyundai? Are they trying to pre-empt the Toyobaru? It somehow feels like the Camaro is no longer the target of the Mustang. Sure, similar power/efficiency of the base engine, but everything else is so much higher quality that they don't even seem to be in the same class now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubbyo Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 The wait is over. That's good news and a load off my mind. I wasn't expecting 315 HP like earlier speculation, so I'm glad that it isn't under 295. I wonder if power will be bumped with a higher octane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Nice! an extra 85 hp AND better milate! Its the best milage since the 98 V6 IIRC. (those were 20/30 under the old rule) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Okay I'm confused, or this is a typo. How do you have roller finger followers AND DAMB ? The last 3.5L I saw just had DAMB. I need a picture. The high output is due largely to Ti-VCT which allows variable control of valve operation across the rev range. The variable cams operate on a Direct Acting Mechanical Bucket (DAMB) valvetrain using polished buckets and roller finger followers to reduce friction. Edited November 30, 2009 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 http://jalopnik.com/5408309/2011-ford-must...30-mpg#comments the comments from the Jalopnik crown are a little more positive then the Autoblog trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) In your face everyone who says change your oil every 3,000 miles ! A die-cast aluminum deep-sump oil pan provides 10,000-mile oil change intervals, saving drivers money on maintenance and resulting in less waste in oil disposal. Although, I would certainly be using at least a synthetic blend, if not a full synthetic oil. Obviously this is under "normal" driving conditions. Edited November 30, 2009 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Do automotive writers actually ever read what they write and realize how little sense it makes ? From Jalopnik There's also a new auto, an all-Ford 6-speed automatic transmission called the 6R80. It's the same box that goes into the 6.2-liter equipped Ford SVT Raptor with different guts. If the guts are different, then I'll bet the case is different. Furthermore, I'll bet there isn't more than a handful of incidental parts (sensors, solenoids, etc) that are actually common between the 6R80 and its big brother that is going behind the Raptor 6.2L. Similar design does not equal "same". Sure the 6F35, 6F50 and 6F55 are similar, or all from the same design family. That does not make them "the same" Edited November 30, 2009 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Damn, the V6 with the performance pack should be a killer in the turns! For once I'd be satisfied with the V6, and for the price will be a performance bargain, I think I might stop waiting for another SVT Focus and trade my 2600 pound, FWD, gas guzzling Focus for one of these fuel sipping, 305 horsepower gas sippers.. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN12Fan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 "Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational dual overhead cam engine!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Do automotive writers actually ever read what they write and realize how little sense it makes ? From Jalopnik There's also a new auto, an all-Ford 6-speed automatic transmission called the 6R80. It's the same box that goes into the 6.2-liter equipped Ford SVT Raptor with different guts. If the guts are different, then I'll bet the case is different. Furthermore, I'll bet there isn't more than a handful of incidental parts (sensors, solenoids, etc) that are actually common between the 6R80 and its big brother that is going behind the Raptor 6.2L. Similar design does not equal "same". Sure the 6F35, 6F50 and 6F55 are similar, or all from the same design family. That does not make them "the same" The press release calls it a 6R60, my insider told me it's a ZF built under licence by Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 In your face everyone who says change your oil every 3,000 miles ! A die-cast aluminum deep-sump oil pan provides 10,000-mile oil change intervals, saving drivers money on maintenance and resulting in less waste in oil disposal. Although, I would certainly be using at least a synthetic blend, if not a full synthetic oil. Obviously this is under "normal" driving conditions. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Okay I'm confused, or this is a typo. How do you have roller finger followers AND DAMB ? The last 3.5L I saw just had DAMB. I need a picture. The high output is due largely to Ti-VCT which allows variable control of valve operation across the rev range. The variable cams operate on a Direct Acting Mechanical Bucket (DAMB) valvetrain using polished buckets and roller finger followers to reduce friction. Maybe he needs finger followers for his keyboard. This engine is a real hoot to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) "...Finally, just because the powertrain is the big story with the 2011 Mustang V6 doesn't mean there's aren't significant upgrades elsewhere in the car. Standard now are GT disc brakes all around, optional 19 inch wheels, stiffer bushings, bigger stabilizer bar, dual exhaust standard, low rolling resistance tires, and 7% better aerodynamics because fascia tuning, an underbody tray and wheel spats. Anyone who's been in the convertible knew cowl shake was a problem, and as such Ford's stiffened things quite a bit, the 2011 is over 1000% stiffer than the 2010. That's not a typo. The improvements come in underbody and cowl cross-bracing and structural foam injected into the door pillars. 1000%, pretty impressive..." "...What we are interested in is the rather off-hand comment from one of the engineers regarding the track pack. Optional on the V6, the track pack turns things up a notch and makes it a track-day special. Said unnamed engineer mentioned there's a distinct possibility the track-pack equipped V6 will not only stick with the V8 track-pack 'Stang, it might even outrun it. Well, we would certainly be happy to test that theory out..." Edited November 30, 2009 by mettech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I like this news. But this engine/trans should have been in the 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I like this news. But this engine/trans should have been in the 2010. Will this be enough for the Mustang to be in the running for the 2011 MT COTY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Will this be enough for the Mustang to be in the running for the 2011 MT COTY? If Ford wants to buy another one. What other new Ford cars are coming out for 2011? Is the new Focus going to be an '11 or '12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I like this news. But this engine/trans should have been in the 2010. Welcome to The Way Forward ! New/refreshed bodies ("top hats") will not wait for new powertrains. I suspect only hard core enthusiasts hard find this to be illogical. Happened with the Escape. Happening now with both Mustang and F150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Welcome to The Way Forward ! Ford has been doing this for decades. There is nothing new about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I like it. I do wish they worked on the tail light section though. I'm trying to get use to it but, the 05-09 rear is just much better IMO. But overall a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Welcome to The Way Forward ! New/refreshed bodies ("top hats") will not wait for new powertrains. I suspect only hard core enthusiasts hard find this to be illogical. Happened with the Escape. Happening now with both Mustang and F150. OTOH - the new Taurus debuted with a new tophat, interior and the EB 3.5L all at the same time. I think it's just a matter of timing rather than a predetermined strategy. If the engines are ready they go in - if not then they have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I like it. I do wish they worked on the tail light section though. I'm trying to get use to it but, the 05-09 rear is just much better IMO. But overall a good job. I dunno more and more I see the 2010/11 Mustang the more I like about it, including the tail of it...the 05-09 models are too flat and upright looking....I still love my 06 GT, but I really do like the detail styling changes they did to the new Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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