Stng1996 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_Explorer_Powertrain.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 ... projected 237 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 250 lb.-ft. of torque from 1,700 through 4,000 rpm No estimated mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) double post Edited July 28, 2010 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) The 2.0L makes 250lb-ft, the 3.5L makes 255lb-ft. From the sounds of it, they are about equal in power from idle-4000rpm. From 4000rpm on up, the 3.5L starts to pull away, topping out with a big 53hp advantage. Honestly, my wife's Edge rarely ever sees more than 4000rpm, so the 2.0L EB would be sufficient most of the time. It would have been nice to see the 3.7L or 3.5L EB though. I like my 3.5L, but I expect the Explorer to weigh 500lb more than my Edge does. Edited July 26, 2010 by atvman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't get this, why no 3.5L EB? I would think the Explorer could use that powerplant more than any other Ford vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't get this, why no 3.5L EB? I would think the Explorer could use that powerplant more than any other Ford vehicle Maybe that comes next? I think they're playing up the fuel mileage thing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't get this, why no 3.5L EB? I would think the Explorer could use that powerplant more than any other Ford vehicle Seems logical as a Job 2 addition. That's how they've been doing it with every other vehicle that has gotten it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe that comes next? I think they're playing up the fuel mileage thing right now. Yes but the reviews will bitch it is underpowered and that it needs more power and you can't get it. It will not hurt sales to have the 3.5eco engine in there as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe that comes next? I think they're playing up the fuel mileage thing right now. Yes but the reviews will bitch it is underpowered and that it needs more power and you can't get it. It will not hurt sales to have the 3.5eco engine in there as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe that comes next? I think they're playing up the fuel mileage thing right now. Yes but the reviews will bitch it is underpowered and that it needs more power and you can't get it. It will not hurt sales to have the 3.5eco engine in there as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The 2.0L makes 250lb-ft, the 3.5L makes 255lb-ft. From the sounds of it, they are about equal in power from idle-4000rpm. From 4000rpm on up, the 3.5L starts to pull away, topping out with a big 53hp advantage. Honestly, my wife's Edge rarely ever sees more than 4000rpm, so the 2.0L EB would be sufficient most of the time. It would have been nice to see the 3.7L or 3.5L EB though. I like my 3.5L, but I expect the Explorer to weigh 500lb more than my Edge does. Motortrend is predicting that it will weigh between 4350 and 4600lb, which is just 200lb or so more than an Edge. If this is true, then the 3.5L and 2.0L EB should be fine. Heck, it might even be quicker than my Edge because it has 25 extra ponies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The Flex has the 3.5L EB, so I am sure the new Explorer will get it too, eventually. A 400 HP 3.5L EB Explorer Sport (or SHO or whatever they will call the sporty variant) would be pretty sweet. For now, a 290 HP Explorer with an optional fuel miser 2.0L EB will be just fine. They have to have some new stuff to offer in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Towing = 5,000 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Yes, I could see the upgraded 3.5 EB coming on a future Titanium or Sport model (and perhaps being an option on the Limited model). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Yes, I could see the upgraded 3.5 EB coming on a future Titanium or Sport model (and perhaps being an option on the Limited model). Are all 3.5 EB AWD? A 3.5 EB AWD Limited Explorer would be pretty pricy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackintire Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Ford needs to release a 2.5 liter EB engine to fill the missing hole. 285HP with 290lbs torque. Then they can idle down the 3.5 liter. But personally, I don't see Ford releasing such an engine for another 3 years. The only engine not currently listed would be the 2.5 liter. BTW the 1.0 liter engine is a 3 cyl and is currently only planned for european markets.. 1.0 EB 126 HP 1.6 EB 170 HP 2.0 EB 237 HP 2.5 EB 285 HP 2.5 EB H.O 310 HP 3.5 EB 365 HP 3.5 EB H.O. 400HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Are all 3.5 EB AWD? A 3.5 EB AWD Limited Explorer would be pretty pricy. Yes, all 3.5EB vehicles include/are AWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Yes, all 3.5EB vehicles include/are AWD. All CURRENT vehicles are AWD. The F150 won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWR Kid Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Towing = 5,000 lbs Not sure why towing on 4 cyl EB is only 2,000lbs. V6 EB in F150 is going to be class leader in towing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictor Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It may be the front wheel drive setup found on the 4 cyl engine quote name='PWR Kid' date='28 July 2010 - 01:00 AM' timestamp='1280293223' post='631077'] Not sure why towing on 4 cyl EB is only 2,000lbs. V6 EB in F150 is going to be class leader in towing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Motortrend is predicting that it will weigh between 4350 and 4600lb, which is just 200lb or so more than an Edge. If this is true, then the 3.5L and 2.0L EB should be fine. Heck, it might even be quicker than my Edge because it has 25 extra ponies. No, the 2011 Edge has 285 hp. It will still perform better than the Explorer, lets not factor in the Sport Edge at 307 HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 No, the 2011 Edge has 285 hp. It will still perform better than the Explorer, lets not factor in the Sport Edge at 307 HP. Note that I said quicker than MY Edge, which has a 265hp V6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 No, the 2011 Edge has 285 hp. It will still perform better than the Explorer, lets not factor in the Sport Edge at 307 HP. Old Edge 3.5L = 265 hp. New Explorer = 290 hp (not 285). That's 25 more hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Not sure why towing on 4 cyl EB is only 2,000lbs... Probably because the 2.0L EcoBoost is not capable of putting out max torque for sustained periods of time. Like driving up Eisenhower Pass with a loaded trailer. Cresting Eisenhower Pass at nothing less posted minimum speed, with maximum Gross Vehicle COMBINED Weight is at least an "unofficial" test for Ford vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) Probably because the 2.0L EcoBoost is not capable of putting out max torque for sustained periods of time. Like driving up Eisenhower Pass with a loaded trailer. Cresting Eisenhower Pass at nothing less posted minimum speed, with maximum Gross Vehicle COMBINED Weight is at least an "unofficial" test for Ford vehicles. This explains why I have seen many camouflaged Fords testing here on I-70 in Colorado over the years. Eisenhower is not a pass but a twin mile long bore through the Continental Divide at about 11,000 Ft above sea level. The approaches, from both the east and west become exceptionally steep just before you enter the tunnel. Edited July 28, 2010 by Kev-Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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