RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) I think you guys missed my point. Sapphire--the naturally occurring crystal--can be transparent and is made of aluminum (and oxygen). Transparent aluminum has been there all along. Edited December 13, 2013 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think you guys missed my point. Sapphire--the naturally occurring crystal--can be transparent and is made of aluminum (and oxygen). Transparent aluminum has been there all along. Actually, I just wanted to make Star Trek jokes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Actually, I just wanted to make Star Trek jokes. oh, well, carry on then: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 This one made me a bit said (even though I am a fan of both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The coolest plant tour though is the Severstal Plant (Rouge Steel / Ford Steel Division) it is just amazing, they really need to include that on the Rouge factory tour. Ford sold the old Rouge Steel plant to Severstal (a Russian Company) in 2004. The old Rouge steel complex is no longer part of Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) This one made me a bit said (even though I am a fan of both). Not me. I'm not a fan of JJ Abrams' Star Trek movies. They're okay as 2-hour explosions of sound and fury, but there's dang little thinking in them. For my money, Whedon should've gotten the Star Trek franchise. Firefly, IMO, is Star Trek. Both series were closely concerned with ethically navigating an ambiguous universe. Star Trek's was ambiguous because it was frontier territory: 'strange new worlds', Firefly's because the bad guys had won (but with a fair bit of frontier territory as well). Both ships were led by a principled captain with an overriding loyalty to crew. And if you're still not convinced, try this thought exercise: What would an episode of Star Trek look like if the Klingons had won? Edited December 13, 2013 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I knew after I posted the image this would turn into a Abrams hate fest. That argument petered about years ago for me (I'll keep my thoughts to myself, but let's just say I don't disagree with you). I'll keep the images lighthearted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Don't get me wrong, I don't *hate* Abrams' Star Trek movies. And I don't like them. They're just slightly above-average cinema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/08/great-geek-debates-stormtrooper-vs-redshirt/ Edited December 13, 2013 by RichardJensen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/08/great-geek-debates-stormtrooper-vs-redshirt/ Guy Fleegman: I changed my mind. I wanna go back. Sir Alexander Dane: After the fuss you made about getting left behind? Guy Fleegman: Yeah, but that's when I thought I was the crewman that stays on the ship, and something is up there, and it kills me. But now I'm thinking I'm the guy who gets killed by some monster five minutes after we land on the planet. Jason Nesmith: You're not gonna die on the planet, Guy. Guy Fleegman: I'm not? Then what's my last name? Jason Nesmith: It's, uh, uh - -I don't know. Guy Fleegman: Nobody knows. Do you know why? Because my character isn't important enough for a last name, because I'm gonna die five minutes in. Gwen DeMarco: Guy, you have a last name. Guy Fleegman: DO I? DO I? For all you know, I'm "Crewman Number Six"! Mommy... mommy... Sir Alexander Dane: Are we there yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 And if you're still not convinced, try this thought exercise: What would an episode of Star Trek look like if the Klingons had won? Not exactly your answer, but it might be close. http://www.startrek.com/watch_episode/PK_ODwax6EbP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ford sold the old Rouge Steel plant to Severstal (a Russian Company) in 2004. The old Rouge steel complex is no longer part of Ford. Actually Ford didn't sell it. Severstal bought Rouge Steel in Bankruptcy but Rouge was an independent company then. Ford sold the Steel Division to become Rouge Steel in 1989. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Actually Ford didn't sell it. Severstal bought Rouge Steel in Bankruptcy but Rouge was an independent company then. Ford sold the Steel Division to become Rouge Steel in 1989. Very true. I forgot that Ford had spun off Rouge Steel many years back. From what I understand, Servestal has been a good owner. They've invested a lot of money in the Dearborn plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think the F150 is being delayed because the British and American Ford staff can't decide if it's pronounced "A-lum-in-um" or "Al-you-minimum"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Not exactly your answer, but it might be close. http://www.startrek.com/watch_episode/PK_ODwax6EbP What? A TNG episode? Get outta here. :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think the F150 is being delayed because the British and American Ford staff can't decide if it's pronounced "A-lum-in-um" or "Al-you-minimum"... or Al-you-minium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think the real reason they are using Al is because Mr. Mulally felt he had something in common with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Well, if you can be my bodyguard, I can be your long lost pal: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) I think the F150 is being delayed because the British and American Ford staff can't decide if it's pronounced "A-lum-in-um" or "Al-you-minimum"... That's AL-YOU-MINI-YUM as opposed to AH-LOOM-IN-NUM....:P Edited December 13, 2013 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Well, if you can be my bodyguard, I can be your long lost pal: Just don't call me Betty...or Shirley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Call me Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Nothing to see here, move along........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Further from TTAC: We received a note from Alcoa, a supplier of aluminum, regarding our story on delays with the next Ford F-150. Alcoa’s Monica Orbe sent us this note While details of future programs and timelines should come from automotive OEMs themselves – regardless of the platform — we can say that Alcoa does not have any issues with its automotive production lines. It is important to note that aluminum is the second most used material to build cars today. Automakers have successfully used Alcoa materials to produce aluminum-intensive vehicles since the mid 1990s. Alcoa has basically said that the opening paragraph in the original TTAC article is untrue TTAC’s supplier sources have reported that Ford is facing issues regarding their next-generation F-150 pickup, which is slated to use aluminum extensively.Having previously reported on the F-150′s aluminum body, our source told us that the aluminum (said to be an alloy) supplied by Alcoa and other Tier 2 suppliers did not meet internal forming requirements for the “tooling tryout” phase of pre-production. The reason Ford has a tooling tryout is to find out whether the settings are correct and quality is acceptable, the next pre production run of try outs is probably planned in three months time after suitable revisions. That does not necessarily mean three months delay on production launch as the first batch of vehicles may be used to evaluate systems not affected by imperfect panels. Edited December 14, 2013 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Does TTAC know what a Tier 1 supplier is? If Ford is buying the product, it is buying the product from a Tier 1 supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Does TTAC know what a Tier 1 supplier is? If Ford is buying the product, it is buying the product from a Tier 1 supplier. No Rich, TTAC obviously doesn't have a clue about Tier 1 and their contributions. Those suppliers have intimate knowledge as to the real state of play, Alcoa was saying in a polite way, there is no issue...... Someone overheard something about imperfect stampings and just assumed a delay in approval affects the launch date. Edited December 15, 2013 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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