AlRozzi Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 There seems to be a rumor that MKX is gone in '15. If so, I have a theory that after MKC Lincoln will return to a "normal" naming scheme and a different styling direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I don't think it's gone, but it might get a real name. If it is gone then it will be replaced with a slightly larger Aviator, but I didn't think that was ready yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'm sure the will be making the next gen MKX off the Edge concept. What probably will happen is "if" Lincoln makes another sedan, performance coupe, or Escape based SUV, they won't likely have the MK naming scheme. I think the MKZ, MKX, and MKC names will probably linger for awhile yet. Just because they have built up some name recognition. But worst case is the name changes. They will still be building a vehicle based off the Edge. Given the rumor that the next gen Navigator is going to compete on a level with Land Rover, it's possible the next gen MKX may already be on that path and that's why we haven't seen the concept yet. All of this is just IMHO since Lincoln hasn't announced squat on any of those next gen platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 It does beg the question of whether they need the MKX in between the MKC and the Aviator. I think they could easily do without it if the new Aviator is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I don't think it's gone, but it might get a real name. If it is gone then it will be replaced with a slightly larger Aviator, but I didn't think that was ready yet.Actually a new name was what I was trying to imply with my post but I know I didn't word it well. What I was really getting at is that if there is no vehicle named MKX then I really think there will be a "normal" names. (don't know how else to describe it) Plus, I have noticed that since Alan came on board what is left unsaid when a statement is made to the media by Ford is very telling and from what I've read I am lead to believe that the "real" Max Wolfe styling theme is set to debut - probably in conjunction with the new names. For me, these are exciting times for Lincoln. Edited January 30, 2014 by AlRozzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 It does beg the question of whether they need the MKX in between the MKC and the Aviator. I think they could easily do without it if the new Aviator is ready. Excellent point. I'm not a suv/cuv kind of guy anyway, so I would much rather see more car models in the Lincoln line. The MKZ is tempting me as it is right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It does beg the question of whether they need the MKX in between the MKC and the Aviator. I think they could easily do without it if the new Aviator is ready. Considering how well the MKX has done even as a modest upgrade from the Edge, it would be silly to get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 CUV's are where the money is currently. The vehicle currently known as the MKX won't be going away. The MKT will probably befall a horrible death soon. But it'll be replaced by vehicle more closely resembling the Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Considering how well the MKX has done even as a modest upgrade from the Edge, it would be silly to get rid of it. It would be silly to get rid of it without a replacement. But with a new Aviator coming that's only slightly larger and offers a 3rd row, it might make sense for Lincoln to only offer 3 utilities instead of 4. Why split a relatively small market share between 2 vehicles if you don't have to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It would be silly to get rid of it without a replacement. But with a new Aviator coming that's only slightly larger and offers a 3rd row, it might make sense for Lincoln to only offer 3 utilities instead of 4. Why split a relatively small market share between 2 vehicles if you don't have to? Slightly larger? Explorer is considerably larger than the Edge. I wouldn't expect different for the MKX/Aviator. Two very different types of vehicles with two unique customers. And I wouldn't really consider the market share small in the eyes of Lincoln. MKX has been one of its better performers, despite its age. Aviator could likely perform even better. So I don't see any reason to choose between selling one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehaase Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Since the Edge is being redesigned for 2015, I think it is more likely the MKX will return for 2016. If I recall, both the original MKX and the new MKZ debuted several months after the Edge and Fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'd see the MKX being geared towards couples or young families that don't need a huge vehicle, much how the Edge is slotted between the Explorer and Escape currently...not to mention the best selling luxury car in the US is a mid sized CUV in the RX350. A more interesting point that should be made, is is really demand for a Navigator vs an Explorer based Lincoln? I see the MKE or whatever its called more appealing to Luxury buyers...the Navi is more of a Niche player then a Fullsized CUV in the luxury market and could survive along with the LincExplorer, but the real growth would come from a LincExplorer. The Nav would be geared towards people who have a farm or do real work with their vehicles and the LincExplorer would be geared towards wealthy Soccer Moms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'd be willing to bet that the confusion on MKX going away is in name only, meaning that the next iteration gets a real name. A more interesting scenery is what if MKX becomes Aviator, MKT goes away and the next Navigator is on the Explorer platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 [ off topic ] ...A more interesting point that should be made, is is really demand for a Navigator vs an Explorer based Lincoln? I see the MKE or whatever its called more appealing to Luxury buyers...the Navi is more of a Niche player then a Fullsized CUV in the luxury market and could survive along with the LincExplorer, but the real growth would come from a LincExplorer. The Nav would be geared towards people who have a farm or do real work with their vehicles and the LincExplorer would be geared towards wealthy Soccer Moms.I've been thinking for a long time that the nextgen ultralight Navi & new CD-whatever Aviator could eliminate the MKT by bracketing its nichenow I'm wondering if a special model (hybrid?) of the nextgen Navi could be called "Navigator-MKT"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 There is just no 2015MY it will be back as a 2016 as the MKX, New Edge is a late launch this year (Q4) -- MKX will launch about a year from now. (Q1, 2015) Being that it will be sold in CY2015, they will call it a 2016. Ford is moving away from the Ford and Lincoln version launching at the same time as they vehicles are becoming more unique. No real production will be lost, they will just build 2014 MKX's though December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) There is just no 2015MY it will be back as a 2016 as the MKX, New Edge is a late launch this year (Q4) -- MKX will launch about a year from now. (Q1, 2015) Being that it will be sold in CY2015, they will call it a 2016. Ford is moving away from the Ford and Lincoln version launching at the same time as they vehicles are becoming more unique. No real production will be lost, they will just build 2014 MKX's though December.hmm... ^that^ is what I'd been thinking but( my blood sugar is still low & haven't had my meds yet ) now I'm wondering if Lincoln will pull another (As Planned) MKZ (minus THE BOTCH) & begin sales of the 2015my MKX On-or-About Jan 1, 2015 wish they'd stop these stupid winter launches I'd red-out Job1s from Oct1 to NewYear'sDay Edited February 2, 2014 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Would the squarer body of the Flex have worked better as an MKT? I keep thinking that the basic idea was right but the execution was wrong.... it's probably water under the bridge..now that Oakville is getting new products.. Edited February 3, 2014 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It's just not a good looking design no matter which way you look at it. I think a larger version of the MKX would have been better rather than the Flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotdog14 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Slightly larger? Explorer is considerably larger than the Edge. I wouldn't expect different for the MKX/Aviator. Two very different types of vehicles with two unique customers. And I wouldn't really consider the market share small in the eyes of Lincoln. MKX has been one of its better performers, despite its age. Aviator could likely perform even better. So I don't see any reason to choose between selling one or the other. I would not say considerably larger, I just looked up the specs and the Explorer is what I would consider 'slightly' larger. Explorer | Edge | Difference Exterior Length: 184.2 | 197.1 | 12.9" Exterior Body width: 76 | 78.9 | 2.9" Exterior Height: 67 | 71 | 4" Wheel Base: 111.2 | 112.6 | 1.4" Front Legroom: 40.7 | 40.6 | -0.1" Rear Legroom: 39.6 | 39.8 | 0.2" Luggage Volume: 32.2 | 21 | -11.2 Max Luggage Volume: 68.9 | 80.7 | 11.8 cu. ft. For all intents and purposes they are the same size except one has third row and the other does not (in my opinion). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I would not say considerably larger, I just looked up the specs and the Explorer is what I would consider 'slightly' larger. Explorer | Edge | Difference Exterior Length: 184.2 | 197.1 | 12.9" Exterior Body width: 76 | 78.9 | 2.9" Exterior Height: 67 | 71 | 4" Wheel Base: 111.2 | 112.6 | 1.4" Front Legroom: 40.7 | 40.6 | -0.1" Rear Legroom: 39.6 | 39.8 | 0.2" Luggage Volume: 32.2 | 21 | -11.2 Max Luggage Volume: 68.9 | 80.7 | 11.8 cu. ft. For all intents and purposes they are the same size except one has third row and the other does not (in my opinion). The Explorer is over a foot longer and 4 inches taller. By vehicle class size standards, that's significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlaz1 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Why is there still no 2014 MKX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 They're at dealers now. The website just hasn't been updated yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 They're at dealers now. The website just hasn't been updated yet. Kind of a bad oversight for a brand trying to demonstrate it is now on the leading edge of the luxury market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yep - and I thought they were doing so much better with the more recent new vehicle presentations. My guess is not much actually changed and they just forgot to change the name from 2013 to 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timf Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 The 2014 models didn't start arriving until December, so there is likely still 2013 inventory left that they want to sell. Lincoln did the same thing with the MKZ and MKS and kept the 2013 models up on the website for 2-3 months after the 2014 models had arrived. The only reason I can come up with is it allows them to highlight the greater incentives on the previous year's model for people who are shopping prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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