AGR Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-camry-to-get-20liter-turbo-four-89215.html Of course, there were/are some here who thought Ford was wrong to drop the V6 from the Fusion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised.... who buys a fucking Camry and expects it to go fast? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised.... who buys a fucking Camry and expects it to go fast? Matt Kenseth?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 What engine does Toyota run in Nascar? They don't have a 60s/70s legacy cast iron ohv V8 designed around a 4" bore and 3.5" stroke like the Big Three do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 What engine does Toyota run in Nascar? They don't have a 60s/70s legacy cast iron ohv V8 designed around a 4" bore and 3.5" stroke like the Big Three do.... yes they do. every engine in nascar is required to be of the same OHV pushrod V8 design. there is no such thing as "manufacturer specific" in nascar except for a few decals and a unique front facia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 The current Camry's 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 outperforms all four cylinder turbo engines in competing midsize sedans, and gets better real world fuel economy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 yes they do. every engine in nascar is required to be of the same OHV pushrod V8 design. there is no such thing as "manufacturer specific" in nascar except for a few decals and a unique front facia You mean to say they're all running the exact same block and heads? My understanding was that rules dictated displacement, cam type and profile, valve size, compression ratio, etc, but that the different teams used blocks that were loosely based on actual production engines. I.e. the GM teams ran a version of the 350 block and the Ford teams ran a version of the Ford small block. Toyota has no such engine in its history to my knowledge.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 You mean to say they're all running the exact same block and heads? My understanding was that rules dictated displacement, cam type and profile, valve size, compression ratio, etc, but that the different teams used blocks that were loosely based on actual production engines. I.e. the GM teams ran a version of the 350 block and the Ford teams ran a version of the Ford small block. Toyota has no such engine in its history to my knowledge.... If that's true then they could base their block on the 5.7 V-8 from the tundra, modified for the use of pushrods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The tundra 5.7 is an all aluminum DOHC motor. It has a 94mm bore and as such would be very airflow limited with a 2 valve head. The stoke necessary to meet the 358 ci limit would make 9500 rpm operation near impossible. It has no place for a camshaft in the valley or provision for a distributor. By the time you cast it out of iron and modified it to remedy the other deficiencies, it would share absolutely nothing with the original, not even bore spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It was purpose built from scratch. It not only had to meet the rule book but they were not allowed to go outside what ford, gm and dodge were doing with theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can't you people Google? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It was purpose built from scratch. It not only had to meet the rule book but they were not allowed to go outside what ford, gm and dodge were doing with theirs. That figures. With Toyota's cash, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can't you people Google? With you around to fact check, why do we need to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) of the 30,139 Camrys on cars.com, only 2,986 are V6 powered. The current Camry's 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 outperforms all four cylinder turbo engines in competing midsize sedans, and gets better real world fuel economy too. Elsewhere in the world, the Camry V6 is called "Aurion" and has significant structural changes over the 4 cyl Camry, I'm betting that the switch to new platform combined with standardizing with 4 cylinder engines (NA and Turbo) will streamline production even more...... Edited August 3, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Fan boys are going to break out in hives, !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The Camry has fan boys? My impression is that the current Camry is going to be the next Grand Marquis. Extremely popular in its day but in a decade it will be intellectual suicide to be seen in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I mean the fan-zies who say the Fusion "must have a V6 to compete with Toyota!" While I agree about Camrys being stodgy since 1997, the new 2015's look more like a Lexus, a bit more upscale. Less like a 'nerd-mobile'; good for Toyota, bad for Lexus though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I mean the fan-zies who say the Fusion "must have a V6 to compete with Toyota!" While I agree about Camrys being stodgy since 1997, the new 2015's look more like a Lexus, a bit more upscale. Less like a 'nerd-mobile'; good for Toyota, bad for Lexus though Personally I'm not a fan of the new front end language. It reminds me of something from my childhood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I mean the fan-zies who say the Fusion "must have a V6 to compete with Toyota!" While I agree about Camrys being stodgy since 1997, the new 2015's look more like a Lexus, a bit more upscale. Less like a 'nerd-mobile'; good for Toyota, bad for Lexus though It looks upscale until you get to that "window" on the rear pillar made out of black tape. That is so astonishingly lazy and cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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