Blue Oval Guide Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Ford Sales Results and Figures: May 2016 Article Link / PDF Sales Chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Ford Sales Results and Figures: May 2016 Article Link / PDF Sales Chart Think utilities are killing car sales anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yikes, whats up with the with almost 25% drop in sales across the passenger car lineup?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Wow, bad month for anything other than their fleet business. Lincoln holding on to modest growth, MKZ over 3,000 even if it's still down from last year. Navigator has obviously reached it's customer limit. Edited June 1, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yikes, whats up with the with almost 25% drop in sales across the passenger car lineup?!! Taurus was up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Taurus was up! LOL Yeah I know...but I also think its getting fleeted out also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 The big declines were recorded by the Fiesta and Focus. Both are either in a declining segment (thanks to lower gasoline prices) or facing thoroughly revamped competitors, or both. The bad reputation earned by their automatic transmission isn't helping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 The industry as a whole was off by 6% for May. Analysts note that there were fewer sales days this year vs. last year though. GM was off 18% Toyota off nearly 10% Honda down 5% Nissan -1% FCA managed to be up 1%. Interestingly, while F-Series had a good up month, Silverado was off nearly 13%, Sierra was down 7% and Ram p/u was down 3%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Biggest concern was that incentives were up over 28% over last year. Wonder how bad it would have been if they weren't juicing sales. Sales are starting to peak, and people don't need to replace a car as often anymore, 100K doesn't mean automatic replacement for people anymore, That number is getting to be 150K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Sales are starting to peak, and people don't need to replace a car as often anymore, 100K doesn't mean automatic replacement for people anymore, That number is getting to be 150K. I agree with this. My wife used to freak out with anything over 100k, but our Flex just turned over 100k last week, and she says she's still good with her car for a few years. This is becoming very common. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 100K doesn't mean automatic replacement for people anymore, That number is getting to be 150K. Unless you're Borg then it's every 24K. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Actually, it's every 10K at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Ford is still holding flat for the year thanks to utilities so even if Ford's car business is likely to continue shrinking for the remainder of the year (and likely the next several), they have higher margin products taking their place. I still think Ford is facing some significant headwinds going forward with an aging car fleet and the lack of a small Crossover and maxed out production capacity for the Escape. Ford will be addressing many of these weaknesses by decade's end but at the moment Ford is essentially relying on it's Truck & Van business to make up the differences. Edited June 1, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 The cars seem to be holding their own but I agree the lack of smaller utilities and Escape production constraints are hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I agree with this. My wife used to freak out with anything over 100k, but our Flex just turned over 100k last week, and she says she's still good with her car for a few years. This is becoming very common. Mine is approaching 200k (almost at 181k right now) and I'm still cool with it for another year or 2 until the Ranger comes out despite literally every piece of trim on the dash and door panels rattling. Edited June 1, 2016 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 The cars seem to be holding their own but I agree the lack of smaller utilities and Escape production constraints are hurting. But we read a few months ago that Escape overflow and MKC production are going to Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 But we read a few months ago that Escape overflow and MKC production are going to Mexico. And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Actually, it's every 10K at this point. You've out-Borged yourself........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 And? That will help cure production constraints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Our 2005 Focus SE sedan has 229,000 miles on the odometer, and our 2003 Accord EX sedan (four cylinder) has 252,000 miles on the odometer. We'll probably replace the Focus before the end of this year, and the Accord next summer. Yes, cars do last much longer than they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen White Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Hmm, so would slower sales mean my dealer might shave off a few more $ when I go pick up my new car?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) But we read a few months ago that Escape overflow and MKC production are going to Mexico. That's not happening until the next-generation Escape and Focus around 2018. My sister has a 2007 Ford Focus with around 170K miles on it. The funny thing is she had constant problems in her first 100K miles, I think basically everything in the chassis except for the engine has been rebuilt or replaced under the generous 100K Warranty. But once all of that was fixed, she has had no issues in the last 70-80K miles. She just picked up a Caddy CTS with 100K miles on it and is selling off the Focus. I think it held up relatively well, the door handle doesn't work on the passenger side and there is certainly plenty of rusting going on now with a broken armrest (surprised it didn't break at the factory it's so flimsy). I'm sure the next person will get allot of miles out of it. Generally speaking, the Focus and Escape (I4s only) seem to be some of the longest lived Fords despite their rocky launch. I'm always surprised by how many of those 1st generation cars at still on the roads in Michigan which is a pretty harsh environment that chews through cars quickly. The cars with the smallest and most robust I4s seem to last the longest, that was also true of the Taurus...only the GLs survived to old age. Edited June 1, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Low gas prices leads to bigger car sales, but then who is giving us this cheap fuel? Will these people suddenly raise the price? As in 1973? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 That will help cure production constraints But TODAY the lack of extra capacity is hurting sales, which is all I said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Hmm, so would slower sales mean my dealer might shave off a few more $ when I go pick up my new car?? Doubtful. Remember it's both demand and SUPPLY and you won't see big incentives unless they're overstocked and Ford has been pretty good about cutting back on production to keep inventory levels from getting too high in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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