Jqa1824 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Today at the Expedition event, Hinrichs once again said that Ford has five more SUVs/Crossovers coming over the next few years. Two of them have been confirmed, the Bronco and the Electric CUV (Model E, or the platform-mate of the Model E?). What else could these things be? What segments could they cover? For now I'm assuming that they are not including Lincoln in this count of five. Option 1: I do have a concept that the Flex could be replaced with a long-wheelbase Explorer (similar to a Tahoe v Suburban or Expedition v Expedition Max), giving more room in the third row or more cargo space. It could share interiors, engines, tailgate and front doors, but have a unique front end...they could even called it an Explorer Flex to capture loyal Flex buyers. Option 2 : Ford has a habit of calling performance or specialized models as unique nameplates, such as the Raptor, Focus ST, Fusion Energi, etc. I wonder if the next generation Escape will get a Hybrid/PHEV version, sharing powertrains with the next generation Fusion's Hybrid/PHEV. I also wonder if the Bronco will get a performance version, like the Raptor. Option 3: Since a lot of the growth will come from the bottom end of the market, I wonder if the current/next gen EcoSport (I REALLY wish they had changed the name for North America) would be paired with a "funkier/sportier" model. Nissan has the upcoming Rogue Sport to cover the "B-CUV segment" on the conservative end, and the Juke to cover the "Sporty/Funky/Unique" end. Could Ford do the same? I bet this kind of model would do well in Europe, as Citroen and other carmakers have had great success. Any other ideas out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 They're counting the EcoSport as one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Not according the graphic shown today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Not according the graphic shown today Joe Hinrichs said it in today's press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Ecosport, Aviator, Bronco, Model E for sure. For the 5th one - Everest? Assuming it's new (as in not currently in production in NA) nameplates and just refreshes like Explorer, Expy and Navi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Ecosport, Aviator, Bronco, Model E for sure. For the 5th one - Everest? Assuming it's new (as in not currently in production in NA) nameplates and just refreshes like Explorer, Expy and Navi. Do we know for sure they're counting Aviator as one of them? I was under the impression that it was for the Ford brand and Lincolns counted separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 An article in Autonotive News says that the EcoSport and Lincolns do not count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 But then again based on what Joe Hinrichs said today it seemed like they were indeed counting the Expedition in that group. And yes they are counting the EcoSport. Go watch today's presser if you don't believe me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Still have the idea that the Everest might still showup here. Smaller truck based offroad & tow vehicle that can still hold a family aimed at the Grand Cherokee/4 Runner. Those buyers also wouldn't be interested in a 2 or 4 door Bronco and those buyers are not looking at anything in the Ford stable currently; if you have the vehicle developed, space at a plant and a market why not launch it, even if its 30K-40K in sales it is still good profitable sales. Another possibility is when the next Explorer is launched it is slightly longer allowing the 3 row Edge to show up. Edited February 7, 2017 by jasonj80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 That article also implies the other two models will be on the small side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Ecosport, Aviator, Bronco, Model E for sure. For the 5th one - Everest? Assuming it's new (as in not currently in production in NA) nameplates and just refreshes like Explorer, Expy and Navi. I don't think Aviator counts, as it's a Lincoln. In his presentation, he also said 2 have yet to be shown/named. Technically that was said before they drove out the Expedition, so whether that counts as one of the remaining 2, I don't know. He specifically mentioned EcoSport, Model E, and Bronco. And obviously Expedition. I would assume that would be counted as the 4th of 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 So either Explorer or Everest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Again. These will be new nameplates, and the usuallyvreliable Automotive News implies that the other two new SUVs/CUVs coming to the Ford brand will be on the small side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 So either Explorer or Everest. I think Explorer refresh will be it. I just don't see us getting the Everest (although there is that mystery 3rd product at MAP) - too much overlap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I think Explorer refresh will be it. I just don't see us getting the Everest (although there is that mystery 3rd product at MAP) - too much overlap. FWIW I have heard zero about that mystery 3rd product from anyone at the plant. That rumor literally lasted for about 15 seconds on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Again. These will be new nameplates, and the usuallyvreliable Automotive News implies that the other two new SUVs/CUVs coming to the Ford brand will be on the small side. Well, in that case, EcoSport, Model E, Bronco, ?#1, ?#2. What else small could they do? Split Escape into short and long (that'd be one)? What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Loyal Flex buyers. All 3 of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Well, in that case, EcoSport, Model E, Bronco, ?#1, ?#2. What else small could they do? Split Escape into short and long (that'd be one)? What else? The short Escape would replace the Ecosport Maybe they are going to do an A class CUV like the Spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 I could see a Spark-like CUV being a hit. I know a few Spark owners who love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) According to Automotive News: Ford Motor Co. plans to expand its lineup of SUVs and crossover vehicles in the U.S. to 13 models from seven by 2020, according to company officials and supplier sources, in response to rapid growth in SUV sales. At least three of those future models have been approved for production in the past two years, sources said. Ford Division, which makes the company's Ford-branded cars, said its current four-model SUV lineup, which includes the Escape, the Edge and the Explorer, will be joined over the next three years by the compact EcoSport, which will be imported from India in early 2018; the mid-size Bronco, which goes into production in late 2019 in Wayne, Mich., and a battery-powered compact crossover with a 300-mile range that begins production in Flat Rock, Mich., in 2019. Ford Division officials did not disclose details on two other unidentified models. Supplier sources said thos e vehicles likely are new compact models, where consumer demand is greatest. One is based on the next-generation Focus small car, the sources said, while the other could be based on the next-generation of the subcompact Fiesta. Full article: http://www.autonews.com/article/20170207/OEM04/170209850/1221 Could the new models be version of those jacked up wagon thingies* that Ford have shown in Europe (the Fiesta, I believe). *Industry term Edited February 7, 2017 by Harley Lover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Well, in that case, EcoSport, Model E, Bronco, ?#1, ?#2. What else small could they do? Split Escape into short and long (that'd be one)? What else? Active Fiesta & Active Focus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Active Fiesta & Active Focus x2 Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Active Fiesta & Active Focus But they are nothing more then Hatchbacks with cladding on them...I wouldn't classify them as CUVs because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) From Ford's media release "Ford revealed four distinctive production variants of the Fiesta, including the stylish Fiesta Titanium, the Ford Performance-inspired Fiesta ST-Line, the upscale Fiesta Vignale and the Fiesta Active crossover." Edited February 7, 2017 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 But they are nothing more then Hatchbacks with cladding on them...I wouldn't classify them as CUVs because of that. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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