OT7 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Ford Products Timeline. 2017-future-products-ford-lincoln.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Is that yours or something official? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OT7 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Automotive News pdf. Edited August 28, 2017 by OT7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Seems like this really isn't Ford official...they are blending MY/CY together. Example:2019 Ranger Debut-its a 2019 MY, but that truck will be on dealer lots by the end of next year Other examples: C-Segment Crossover/Model E- they won't launch till 2019 and will be most likely 2020 products. Heck they haven't broke ground at Flat Rock to start making the Model E there yet..and we are 3 months out from 2018. Mustang-2021 MY Expedition Hybrid before the F-150? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Ford pdf. Strange that they would leave question marks in such a document. This does confirm a new C segment utility between Escape and Ecosport if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2019 Ranger Debut-its a 2019 MY, but that truck will be on dealer lots by the end of next year that might be a stretch depending on when Job 1 officially lands. Heck they haven't broke ground at Flat Rock to start making the Model E there yet..and we are 3 months out from 2018. They broke ground on something (kinda strange there wasn't any hoopla about it) not long ago. I just noticed it last week when I drove by the side of the plant I don't normally drive by. Mustang-2021 MY ? Expedition Hybrid before the F-150? I don't think so. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah no I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 that might be a stretch depending on when Job 1 officially lands. If the plant goes down in May, I don't see any reason why they can't get trucks to for sale by December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If the plant goes down in May, I don't see any reason why they can't get trucks to for sale by December. Well If what the launch team guy told me is accurate, the actual retooling work will take 6 weeks, then who knows how long after that they are planning on having everything up and running enough to begin production. I've heard September and I've heard November for Job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Expedition Hybrid before the F-150? I don't think so. It's conceivable that they'd pilot it on the lower-volume product as they ramp up production. It doesn't seem likely, but it is conceivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 It's conceivable that they'd pilot it on the lower-volume product as they ramp up production. It doesn't seem likely, but it is conceivable. that would make more sense if they were built in the same plant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yeah, I don't know why they randomly put the "2018 Continental" in there as if something changed on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Filler since there is almost nothing new in 2017/2018. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The same issue of Auto News article shows a list that includes/reports "another hybrid police vehicle (besides Fusion) timing unknown", and immediately after that on the list is "2 more electrified vehicles timing unknown". I want to believe this means the next Explorer and the Aviator will get hybrid variants (PIH?), and perhaps the PIU will move to the new Explorer chassis at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 that would make more sense if they were built in the same plant I mean piloting as in getting the powertrain out there, not as in preparing for production. Given the need for electrification to meet CAFE standards and the platform similarities between F150 and Expedition, I would expect that what's done to the Expedition line to accommodate the hybrid powertrain would also have to be done at DTP and/or KCAP (or vice versa), so it should be able to work either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I mean piloting as in getting the powertrain out there, not as in preparing for production. Given the need for electrification to meet CAFE standards and the platform similarities between F150 and Expedition, I would expect that what's done to the Expedition line to accommodate the hybrid powertrain would also have to be done at DTP and/or KCAP (or vice versa), so it should be able to work either way. Not to mention you don't want a major problem to surface on your flagship product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If this thing is accurate that means the CD6 products will start showing up at auto shows some time next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Harley, The other Hybrid Police vehicle might be the F-150 or Expedition, I know I heard they will be offering F-150, and think I heard Expedition would be offered for service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 CD6 is reportedly hybrid capable from the get-go so it could be Explorer or F150. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Expedition Hybrid before the F-150? I don't think so. I'm hearing F-150 Hybrid might be pushed off until the first year of the next redesign. That would, if my info is correct, make it a 2020 model in year 2019. Expedition might go first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Well If what the launch team guy told me is accurate, the actual retooling work will take 6 weeks, then who knows how long after that they are planning on having everything up and running enough to begin production. I've heard September and I've heard November for Job 1 How long after Job 1 does it usually take before vehicles go on sale? Not having had a car payment for the past seven years means I need to start planning now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Well I've heard September and I've heard November for Job 1 Job 1 target is September... it was pulled forward from November. Obviously, with so many moving parts, that is still subject to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How long after Job 1 does it usually take before vehicles go on sale? Not having had a car payment for the past seven years means I need to start planning now... They have to go 5 consecutive days with no build errors after job 1 before the ok to buy is given - at that point retail (sold) vehicles are scheduled and vehicles that come off the assembly line are shipped immediately. Prior to OK to buy they only build dealer stock and they are held for inspection and repair before shipping. I would expect to see dealer stock show up around 4-6 weeks after job 1 but in some cases it could be 2-3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Filler since there is almost nothing new in 2017/2018. Guess the Expedition or Navigator didn't qualify? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Guess the Expedition or Navigator didn't qualify? :P I said almost nothing. As in, there was a lot of blank space in those columns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I said almost nothing. As in, there was a lot of blank space in those columns. No, that wasn't directed at you. More at them - as in Expedition and Navigator are all new in 2018 for the first time since 2003, yet they show the minor refresh Explorer and completely-unchanged-for-2018 Continental on their new product launch chart. Here's an article from them too: http://www.autonews.com/article/20170828/OEM04/170829799/ford-will-ease-into-evs Their timeline for Escape/MKC doesn't make sense. They're saying Escape and MKC will get hybrids/Plug ins for 2019. While we have seen next-gen Escape mules already, MKC is looking like just a refresh for 2019, so not sure how they'd be adding those to the MKC lineup. Next-gen models for sure, but not the current ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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