jpd80 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, akirby said: Nobody gives a shit what they’re called by the government. Just look at them. Exactly right. The point is that these vehicles serve a similar market demographic and Ford intentionally replaced Gen 1 Escape hybrid with C-Max as a way of helping cars with meeting ever tightening CAFE. Now they’re back to hybrid Escape but making it more car like to hopefully move more buyers to utilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The new escape is not bad but they need to "awaken" the exterior (reeks genericism)....where it is crushed by the competition is the interior...c-max is just atrocious styling from start to finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 10:45 AM, jcartwright99 said: They should just come out and say, for the demographic that needs the V8 sound despite being thoroughly outperformed by the V6. Except it easily outperforms the 2.7, and generally returns better real world average fuel economy than the 3.5. While it doesn’t tow as well as the 3.5 stock for stock, it has by FAR the most performance potential for those that may want to modify it after warranty as well. Basically, if you’re trading after warranty or just want to drive the truck as Ford delivered it then 3.5 EB makes a lot of sense. If you’re a “gear head” that keeps the vehicles long term and intends to modify the 5.0 makes the most sense. I find the 2.7 EB uninteresting in the F-Series. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 11:11 AM, silvrsvt said: 5 minutes with a tune is easier then any bolt ons I've ever did.... Yeah, 600-700 reliable rwhp comes easy with a stock long block 5.0, a 3.5 EB is a ticking time bomb with over 500rw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) On 11/18/2020 at 1:39 PM, jpd80 said: You know, it's interesting that the F150 version of the Coyote was always around 60 hp less than the Mustang version. That lack of top end power is exactly why the Coyote can't stand out, it's the very reason why it has DOHC. So yes, Ford does kind of knobble it's V8 to steer the conversation towards the EBV6. I think it’s intentional. Ford sets the F150 5.0 shift points @ 5700 rpm, that is also why they advertise peak HP @ 5700. Take a totally stock 15-20 F150 5.0 and let it rev to 6500 and they make peak HP around 6300 rpm and make another 20-30 HP. Ford should have been letting them shift @ 6500-6600 since day 1. Of course the 18+ F150 5.0 would have been rated at more like 420 HP if they did and that would have likely drawn more 3.5 EB customers to the less expensive 5.0 option. Edited December 1, 2020 by White99GT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, LSchicago said: The quickest new F150 is a 5.0 Regular cab short bed. 13.2 bone stock. Yep, that’s the 100% stock 2018-up F150 record. 2018 RCSB 2WD 5.0. 13.2 @ 104+ There have been a couple stock 4WD 5.0 that have gone 13.4 also. A 3.55 or 3.73 geared 2018-up 5.0 is the quickest truck in the lineup stock (1/4 mile). A 3.15 or 3.31 geared 5.0 is not. Edited December 1, 2020 by White99GT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, LSchicago said: The quickest new F150 is a 5.0 Regular cab short bed. 13.2 bone stock. It's great that Ford continues to offer the RCSB configuration for 2021 F-150, in addition to the V8 engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, White99GT said: Yeah, 600-700 reliable rwhp comes easy with a stock long block 5.0, a 3.5 EB is a ticking time bomb with over 500rw. But how much work and $$$ does it need to get to that point? 80k plus on my tune and haven’t blown up anything yet on my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, White99GT said: Yep, that’s the 100% stock 2018-up F150 record. 2018 RCSB 2WD 5.0. 13.2 @ 104+ There have been a couple stock 4WD 5.0 that have gone 13.4 also. A 3.55 or 3.73 geared 2018-up 5.0 is the quickest truck in the lineup stock (1/4 mile). A 3.15 or 3.31 geared 5.0 is not. An acquaintance in my area has a 2018 5.0 2wd SuperCab. It produces just shy of 600 rwhp & runs in the high 10's in the quarter. It's his daily driver. Same guy has a 2018 Mustang GT that has 850 rwhp & runs in the 9's. It's not street driven. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, silvrsvt said: But how much work and $$$ does it need to get to that point? 80k plus on my tune and haven’t blown up anything yet on my car. Just add 7-8 psi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 20 hours ago, akirby said: Nobody gives a shit what they’re called by the government. Just look at them. In reality, CUVs are just hatchbacks or wagons with slightly raised ground clearance, slightly raised roofs, "rugged" body cladding, and roof racks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 12/1/2020 at 10:05 PM, 351cid said: An acquaintance in my area has a 2018 5.0 2wd SuperCab. It produces just shy of 600 rwhp & runs in the high 10's in the quarter. It's his daily driver. Same guy has a 2018 Mustang GT that has 850 rwhp & runs in the 9's. It's not street driven. Currently building my 2018 GT for 850RW. Procharger Stage 2 P1X/13# of boost. Just waiting for nice weather for the install. If I buy another F150, it will be a 5.0. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 12/2/2020 at 9:47 PM, AGR said: In reality, CUVs are just hatchbacks or wagons with slightly raised ground clearance, slightly raised roofs, "rugged" body cladding, and roof racks. But don't tell the EPA that or they will reclassify all of them as cars, not "trucks". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 12/1/2020 at 8:42 PM, silvrsvt said: But how much work and $$$ does it need to get to that point? 80k plus on my tune and haven’t blown up anything yet on my car. Only counts if it is over 500rwhp....considering your sho is Awd it will never count. TFL did have an 800hp 3.5L that was daily driven by 5star tuning. Either ecoboost (5star had a 600hp 2.7 eco) or 5L will do. The ‘21 5.0 is much more intriguing with the cylinder deactivation, but then Ford went and added the powerboost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDERGROUNDF250 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 11/18/2020 at 1:00 PM, akirby said: No, he's whining about people who know they can't get a V8 but choose to go to the Bronco website and facebook groups and complain about it over and over and over. And then complain about everything else that doesn't fit their idea of a 100% custom Bronco. If you want custom go build it yourself. I can't agree with you more! If you want a custom Bronco, Build it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 8:57 PM, slemke said: Only counts if it is over 500rwhp....considering your sho is Awd it will never count. TFL did have an 800hp 3.5L that was daily driven by 5star tuning. Either ecoboost (5star had a 600hp 2.7 eco) or 5L will do. The ‘21 5.0 is much more intriguing with the cylinder deactivation, but then Ford went and added the powerboost. Someone recently got 850RW out of a 2.3 Mustang Eco. I'd rather have my 850RW 5.0, which cost less to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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