ice-capades Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 39 minutes ago, Wyo82 said: Thanks! Unfortunately, my sales manager is quite useless. Over the course of 3 weeks I have sent 6 emails and 8 phone calls to my sales manager, never heard a peep until I emailed the dealership owner directly. Emailed the owner, had an email back from the sales manager an hour later! Hopefully the sales manager will now be more responsive, knowing that you'll contact the Dealer Principal if necessary. At some point he/she will realize that it's easier to provide you with the information you require. I would make sure that you have a signed sales agreement with vehicle specifications, pricing agreement, etc. to avoid issues later on. I would also recommend addressing the Ford's automatic price protection sooner, rather than later, as there are dealership's that will plead ignorance, claim it doesn't exist, can't be sure that Ford will pay it or will make you pay the price increase and wait to get reimbursed. Ford's price protection for retail orders has been in effect for decades and is included in every price increase notification that Ford announces. If you're not aware, your Dealer has 24/7 access to the Vehicle Visibility reporting system that includes your complete order history and every scheduling, production and shipping status update through final delivery to the dealership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Monoman said: I sincerely hope Ford figures out which 2022MY Super Duty orders they will not be able to build before the 2023MY order bank opens up so those customers have a chance to be first in line. I'm not sure it is easy to explain what i mean. IIRC the 2023MY order bank opens mid October. If Ford can't build my 2022MY SD I would like to know before the 20223My order bank opens up. I don't want to find out in November or December that I have to place a 2023MY and now I'm behind a bunch of orders that were already put in. They have announced plans to do exactly that for other vehicles - schedule the carryover orders first. But we won’t know for sure until closer to job 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi02hk Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, akirby said: They have announced plans to do exactly that for other vehicles - schedule the carryover orders first. But we won’t know for sure until closer to job 1. Is that a rumor or actual communication from Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, sushi02hk said: Is that a rumor or actual communication from Ford? Official but I can’t remember where I saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, sushi02hk said: Is that a rumor or actual communication from Ford? It was the 2023 Bronco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, sushi02hk said: Is that a rumor or actual communication from Ford? It was the 2023 Bronco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulconer Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Picked up my 2022 F-350, CC, SB, Lariat Ultimate, Oxford White, 6.7L today! Here is my order timeline. It took almost a year but I can't claim to have waited that entire time ( I took over an abandoned order ). Order Confirmed 08/27/21 In Production 05/18/22 Built 05/18/22 Shipped 07/15/22 Arrived at Blue Island 07/18/22 Arrived at Spokane 08/02/22 Arrived at Dealership 08/12/22 Ready for Pickup 08/12/22 Received by me 08/13/22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jon Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Today marks 137 days since built and still hasn't shipped. Tomorrow starts my 5th delivery week. Don't think it's gonna make it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King ranch 62 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Jon said: Today marks 137 days since built and still hasn't shipped. Tomorrow starts my 5th delivery week. Don't think it's gonna make it. Look at the upside at least yours is built. You could be like me coming up on 8 months and nothing but conformation. And then when ever I get scheduled and built I’m going to have to still wait for shipping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King ranch 62 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 5:51 PM, faulconer said: Picked up my 2022 F-350, CC, SB, Lariat Ultimate, Oxford White, 6.7L today! Here is my order timeline. It took almost a year but I can't claim to have waited that entire time ( I took over an abandoned order ). Order Confirmed 08/27/21 In Production 05/18/22 Built 05/18/22 Shipped 07/15/22 Arrived at Blue Island 07/18/22 Arrived at Spokane 08/02/22 Arrived at Dealership 08/12/22 Ready for Pickup 08/12/22 Received by me 08/13/22 How much of a markup was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King ranch 62 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 8/12/2022 at 4:16 PM, MSetters said: Lariat, 6.7, BAP, ultimate with upfitter switches and clearance lights. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulconer Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, King ranch 62 said: How much of a markup was it? I paid about $2,500 over MSRP. I also took over another order (at MSRP) but it does not have a VIN yet. This was, by far, my cheapest option for getting a 22 in time to do some camping this year. Edited August 15, 2022 by faulconer Edited to add some pics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjMatrok Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Year’s ago, you could special order a BMW, take delivery in Germany and visit the area. Once done, BMW would ship it to your local dealer and it was done! If my truck was sitting in a storage lot in Kentucky, I’d have no issue taking a flight there and making a road trip out of it to pick it up. Give me a tour of the factory, put me in a hotel for a night, and feed me a good steak! Take off the $1800 destination fee and we are set!!! I’ll run it by my local dealer for a final inspection when I get back to the area!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I had similar thoughts when my Transit Connect spent a month on the dock in Spain waiting for a ship... I was shopping for some body parts to restore a British car, and shipping costs were a deal killer. Would have loved to load up my Transit Connect with parts at British prices then let Ford ship the whole lot to my local dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4thclass Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 hours ago, DjMatrok said: Year’s ago, you could special order a BMW, take delivery in Germany and visit the area. Once done, BMW would ship it to your local dealer and it was done! If my truck was sitting in a storage lot in Kentucky, I’d have no issue taking a flight there and making a road trip out of it to pick it up. Give me a tour of the factory, put me in a hotel for a night, and feed me a good steak! Take off the $1800 destination fee and we are set!!! I’ll run it by my local dealer for a final inspection when I get back to the area!!! You can still do that. You pick it up at BMW Welt (world) which is a huge museum in Munich. You pick it up at the end of the tour as you come down the giant escalators to the lobby and the car is on display and someone is there to go over every feature with you, then you drive out of the building and enjoy Europe. Porsche. MB, even Volvo does it. Volvo has it where you do a factory tour and you get to actually watch your car being built and you pick it up at factory. I had a fried pick his up in the early 2000s. I had a fried pick his M5 in Munich even though we were station in Germany. My truck has been sitting in KY for two months. I would love to take the trip since I am only 8 hours away to get my truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traynoral Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, J4thclass said: You can still do that. You pick it up at BMW Welt (world) which is a huge museum in Munich. You pick it up at the end of the tour as you come down the giant escalators to the lobby and the car is on display and someone is there to go over every feature with you, then you drive out of the building and enjoy Europe. Porsche. MB, even Volvo does it. Volvo has it where you do a factory tour and you get to actually watch your car being built and you pick it up at factory. I had a fried pick his up in the early 2000s. I had a fried pick his M5 in Munich even though we were station in Germany. My truck has been sitting in KY for two months. I would love to take the trip since I am only 8 hours away to get my truck. So if your truck is completely built and just sitting in KY, is there any way for us to drive/fly out there and pick it up ourselves? I am sure the dealers don't like that idea, but was wondering if it is technically possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, traynoral said: So if your truck is completely built and just sitting in KY, is there any way for us to drive/fly out there and pick it up ourselves? I am sure the dealers don't like that idea, but was wondering if it is technically possible. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traynoral Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, akirby said: No. Why is that? Even if you sign and take ownership of the truck beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, traynoral said: Why is that? Even if you sign and take ownership of the truck beforehand? Liability and contracts. Dealers can’t even pick up vehicles from the local rail yard. There are processes and procedures and contracts with the transport companies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traynoral Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, akirby said: Liability and contracts. Dealers can’t even pick up vehicles from the local rail yard. There are processes and procedures and contracts with the transport companies. Gotcha. I had the feeling it was something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoman Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, akirby said: Liability and contracts. Dealers can’t even pick up vehicles from the local rail yard. There are processes and procedures and contracts with the transport companies. All things that can change over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi02hk Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Monoman said: All things that can change over time. Unless next morning when we woke up, the world is no longer running with greed and non-sense, then maybe just many we can bypass all these wait, and delay and pick it up directly. think about it’s almost $2k for the delivery fee and you think the rail company will get that go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 6 hours ago, akirby said: Liability and contracts. Dealers can’t even pick up vehicles from the local rail yard. There are processes and procedures and contracts with the transport companies. You would think if there was a contract...they would have to hold up their end as well? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog5454 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 7/1/2022 at 3:59 PM, bulldog5454 said: Got this email from Ford a few minutes ago. That certainly makes things better. Dear xxxxx, We understand it has been too long since you last heard from us. Today, we wanted to give you an update on the status of your Super Duty F-250 Platinum order. Unfortunately, continued supply chain issues are slowing things down. We’re working diligently to try and reduce these delays. Now here’s our promise to you. We know that waiting for delivery of your Ford is far less fun than actually driving it. So, we commit to updating you as soon as we can, at least once every 45 days regarding your vehicle’s production schedule status. No matter what. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Well today is day #46 since I received this email. And I'm being nice and not counting July 1st when I received it, otherwise it would be day 47. Nothing from Ford, nothing from my dealer. It would take one of their summer IT interns 10 minutes to write a bot that would send these emails and they can't even do that. I bought my first Ford (71 Mustang) a month after I turned 16. I've owned 2 Explorers and 4 F150s since then. But I'm tired of waiting and not getting any younger. I'm going to see what options are available from the dreaded competitors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, bulldog5454 said: Well today is day #46 since I received this email. And I'm being nice and not counting July 1st when I received it, otherwise it would be day 47. Nothing from Ford, nothing from my dealer. It would take one of their summer IT interns 10 minutes to write a bot that would send these emails and they can't even do that. I bought my first Ford (71 Mustang) a month after I turned 16. I've owned 2 Explorers and 4 F150s since then. But I'm tired of waiting and not getting any younger. I'm going to see what options are available from the dreaded competitors. Have you talked to your Dealer or are you just relying on Ford e-mail communications? Does your Dealer know what you expect from them in regard to updates on your order status? Do you know what your Priority Code is? Do you know how many unscheduled retail orders are ahead of you at the dealership? If you haven't heard from your Dealer, let them know what you expect and make them do their job! Your Dealer has 24/7 access to the Vehicle Visibility reporting system that includes your complete order history along with scheduling, production and shipping updates as they become available. In addition, your Dealer has access to other resources that provide information on commodity and plant restraints and other factors that may be affecting the scheduling of your order. Don't rely on a sales representative to have answers to the information you require as most are not familiar with the retail order process or have access to the resources available. Talk directly to the sales manager or the manager responsible for managing their USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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