silvrsvt Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 https://www.motor1.com/news/574105/ford-kuga-ford-escape-refresh-spy-shots/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I plan to order a plug in hybrid Escape later this year - does anyone here know if Ford plan to upgrade to Sync 4 in the 2023 model? And does anyone know timing for the changeover to the 2023 model at Louisville? I guess I should write 'planned timing' - I can't help but think that whatever timeline Ford set will probably slide backwards due to the various issues occurring in the industry right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) This image from the OP shows a slight view of the center screen, but it's hard to tell if it's the larger screen from the China model: Edited March 19, 2022 by Harley Lover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Harley Lover said: This image from the OP shows a slight view of the center screen, but it's hard to tell if it's the larger screen from the China model: It looks bigger than the current model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Come to think of it, that's the Euro model, so no guarantee that our model in the U.S. will have the same upgrades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 I was under the impression that sync4 wasn’t long for this world and it would be replaced by a google system 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 16 hours ago, silvrsvt said: I was under the impression that sync4 wasn’t long for this world and it would be replaced by a google system Great call, that is correct. Unfortunately, but at this point, other than announcing "beginning in 2023" there's a distinct lack of details regarding how the transition will take place: https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/ford-vehicles-to-use-googles-android-operating-system-starting-in-2023/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Harley Lover said: Come to think of it, that's the Euro model, so no guarantee that our model in the U.S. will have the same upgrades... I would think Ford is under pressure to do a major refresh on the N.A. Escape, both exterior and interior wise. While Escape is still a volume seller for Ford, it has lost significant ground to its rivals. So it needs to step up, especially against upstart Hyundai/Kia. Ford can't afford not to significantly improve the interior both appearance and material wise. The latest Stealth package with red contrasting stitching shows that Ford is starting to get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 hours ago, FordBuyer said: I would think Ford is under pressure to do a major refresh on the N.A. Escape, both exterior and interior wise. While Escape is still a volume seller for Ford, it has lost significant ground to its rivals. So it needs to step up, especially against upstart Hyundai/Kia. Ford can't afford not to significantly improve the interior both appearance and material wise. The latest Stealth package with red contrasting stitching shows that Ford is starting to get it. Agreed, let's hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Escape could use a decent upgrade. Compact CUV is the most intensely competitive segment of the new car market - every car company selling in the US has multiple entries in the segment. Ford needs to sprinkle some of that Bronco Sport and Maverick magic on the Escape. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 It looks like the revised escape may fall under the same category as the refreshed f-type. Where the original design was more distinct, but slightly awkward looking with the headlight placement. Whereas the refreshed design is more agressive and better looking, but loses some of the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 9:15 AM, Harley Lover said: Great call, that is correct. Unfortunately, but at this point, other than announcing "beginning in 2023" there's a distinct lack of details regarding how the transition will take place: https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/ford-vehicles-to-use-googles-android-operating-system-starting-in-2023/ You guys realize this will only be the operating system. Sync 4 is the application which could stay exactly the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, akirby said: You guys realize this will only be the operating system. Sync 4 is the application which could stay exactly the same. Thanks, I guess that takes me back to the original question - wonder if Sync 4 will be included in the 2023 model refresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Harley Lover said: Thanks, I guess that takes me back to the original question - wonder if Sync 4 will be included in the 2023 model refresh. I thought sync 4 was only for models with the bigger screens and that the C2 vehicles kept the smaller screens and sync 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I think it’s clear there will be a new version of sync written by or with Google assistance but I would bet they’ll port sync 4 to Android first and replace it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, akirby said: I thought sync 4 was only for models with the bigger screens and that the C2 vehicles kept the smaller screens and sync 3. Recall how the China market Edge was a forerunner to the Edge's interior refresh (including large screen); here's the China market Escape interior: Edited March 21, 2022 by Harley Lover I'm not suggesting that Ford will definitely add this screen to the Escape refresh; that's why I'm curious if anyone has heard at this point what Ford plan to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, Harley Lover said: Recall how the China market Edge was a forerunner to the Edge's interior refresh (including large screen); here's the China market Escape interior: Definite possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 In Europe, the Focus and Kuga interiors are pretty much identical. Here's the '22 Focus interior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Twin Turbo said: In Europe, the Focus and Kuga interiors are pretty much identical. Here's the '22 Focus interior I guess that makes an argument for the Kuga, jury is still out regarding Escape getting that screen... (is that a Vignale interior?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Twin Turbo said: In Europe, the Focus and Kuga interiors are pretty much identical. Here's the '22 Focus interior I would bet the refreshed Escape is getting a larger tablet screen and quilted seats on the upper trims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Farley basically got rid of One Ford so I'm not even sure Kuga (EU/APAC), Escape (CN), and Escape (NA) will continue to be the same model and on the same refresh timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, bzcat said: Farley basically got rid of One Ford so I'm not even sure Kuga (EU/APAC), Escape (CN), and Escape (NA) will continue to be the same model and on the same refresh timeline. It seems like the China model is ahead with its features versus the U.S. model. I'm speculating that the 2023 U.S. model refresh will get upgraded to either the Euro model screen or (less likely) the China model screen. Given that Ford gave Edge (a soon to die model) the China interior, it would kind of make sense for Ford to do something similar for Escape (in an important segment) instead of leaving it to die until the EV model comes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Harley Lover said: It seems like the China model is ahead with its features versus the U.S. model. I'm speculating that the 2023 U.S. model refresh will get upgraded to either the Euro model screen or (less likely) the China model screen. Given that Ford gave Edge (a soon to die model) the China interior, it would kind of make sense for Ford to do something similar for Escape (in an important segment) instead of leaving it to die until the EV model comes along. Since there is tremendous pressure on all auto companies to increase the size of their infotainment screens, I don't think Ford is going to refresh the Escape and leave the interior alone. Already, they have changed the design of the doorcards, changed the color of the wood on the Titanium, and added appearance packages that include contrasting red stitching. I think Ford is aware how competitive and important this segment as it seems like the Koreans come out with new CUV every other month. And hopefully in next couple years they will be able to produce many more hybrids...maybe up to 50% of total production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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