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BZCAT, Teamstergrrl Guys, Not sure where you got your info, but I don't think a lot of operators who "cube out" before they "weigh out" are in the target group. For sure Pepsico is NOT one of those. I do believe most of the major beverage producers..note producers, need vehicles that can maximize weight. In the old days production/bottling/canning facilities were numerous and localized. Not so today. Production is done in fewer and larger facilities that feed the finished product distribution sites. And for sure I can't imagine the new Tesla class 8 tractor will be replacing single axle class 6 tractors. As I see it, at this point I view this as more "Green Hype" that corporate types like to display. As the Aussie that JPD referenced, it is BS when you do the hard math. I have wondered about battery weight-shocker if it is 5 tons heavier. Then add up grid charging issues and it will be a long time before battery powered class 8's make real sense. Not arguing about the benefits associated with eliminating transmissions, differentials, cooling systems, or converting a "north/south" driveline to a simple direct "east/west" driveline. Just saying.."In due time".

I have nothing, and that’s not even in a no comment kind of way. I literally know nothing about it.

Which would be extremely heartbreaking, but you're probably right. The only reason I think an actually ev sports car mustang is possible is due to those rumors of a more traditional ev coupe that were circulating awhile ago. That and I just don't see why they would bother with doing a coupe SUV when the existing mach-e has already slotted into that segment. It would be like saying here's a coupe SUV, and our even more coupy SUV.

We've been running 2 shifts since the Bronco launched 2 years ago.

Actually Rick, tankers are the least likely market IMO for the Tesla. Point I made in previous post regarding Pepsico. I would have to believe, the bulk of their 5 axle traffic is full load-either packaged drinks or tankers transporting the "syrup/sugar" that ends up as soda. As Pepsico owns Frito Lay, perhaps that is where the hundred Teslas that they have purchased will end up as that is "cube out" freight rather than "weighout" freight so the Teslas would be a better fit there....and by the way, if I had to bet, I would say the bulk of Frito Lays tractors in the old days were built at KTP. A heavy Louisville was not that big an issue.? As for petroleum for sure not a good fit for any heavy tractor. In round numbers, every 6lbs of tractor weight is one gallon less of gas. And as for tankers, their frontal area is minimal vs. a van freight so there is no fuel saving associated with drag there.

Ironically, one of the better fits for a Tesla Semi may be to deliver tankers of fuel to gas stations in large cities. Average speed is lower, lower drag due to tanker shape, lots of traffic with start-stop, long range is not as critical so could utilize smaller battery option which cost and weighs less, etc. The same or similar may apply hauling groceries from distribution centers to neighborhood stores.

Thanks I saw that, and find it hard to believe Ford isn't going to have a BEV Ranger before 2029! Was hoping for some "insider" info from fuzzymoomoo. But as mentioned in his post, nothing more at this point.

2030 model year for TE1 Ranger and Bronco... I guess it is a good thing Toyota is so far behind on EV that it won't have a Hilux/Tacoma EV for even longer.

Read the chart

No worries rmc523, we all appreciate your effort creating the charts. Thank you! ?

My salesman who is a friend of mine told me their company line…to expect my order in a year, and anything sooner is a plus. After the 22 MY, no promises are being made. That said, they don’t expect a repeat of 22’. April is J2 scheduling. I’m thinking that a lot of the issues are ironed out. would guess I’ll see my truck in July, which would be great. If not, then it is what it is…

Looks like we are getting a Bronco EV in 2029 along with the Ranger at BOC Current Bronco (U725) end of production: October 2029 Next gen Bronco (U765) start of production: November 2029 (ending 2036) Electric Bronco EV / BEV (U800) start of production: November 2029 (ending 2036) 7th gen Bronco will remain on the T6 platform and continue being built at Michigan Assembly Plant Electric Bronco BEV will be built on TE1 platform (shared with Ranger BEV) and built at Blue Oval City in Tennessee

An early adopter I know well upgraded his Tesla S for a new one, and told me the longer 400-mile range was part of decision. His first S was capable of around 270 miles. The interesting thing is that they do all long trips in their ICE SUV, so I was curious why he upgraded when the EV is mostly used for local trips and didn’t need the added range. He said it was because he could, and that you can never have too much range even if you don’t use it. He loves the Tesla and said he would buy another BEV for his wife, but that he doesn’t want to be without an ICE vehicle for longer road trips. So for years they have had one of each (BEV and ICE) and will likely remain that way in foreseeable future; and it is due to preference, not cost. To your point above, some buyers may also “want them now”, but in limited quantities. I will consider one BEV for local trips to be charged at home, but the other primary vehicle will be gas-powered for foreseeable future.

And then there’s the Rumour of CE1 for compact BEV (Maverick) going into Louisville in 2027. CE1 is supposed to be using GE2 modules and batteries, so maybe Ford finally has a unified electrification strategy. Which leaves me wondering about the European Cologne plant building orphan VW based vehicles and what Ford Europe has planned in the meantime. There’s Puma EV and a suggestion that Ford Europe is looking to BEV it’s C2 vehicles (they need BEV yesterday) one final thought on the 2027 launch dates for a lot of Ford’s electric vehicles, just beyond the expiry date of the approaching UAW agreement? Maybe an attempt to keep these negotiations more about changes coming in next three years…

I'm sure it is a 4 door SUV coupe type vehicle. More interesting news here is the timing... July 2026 which is about 1.5 years later than previous timeline. The 2nd gen Mach E was supposed to be a 2026 model but now it is 2027. I guess the Explorer EV delays have a knock-on effect on Mach E too.

By that time, many full sized car buyers had already moved to three row utilities and large SUVs. Ford made sure they channel stuffed as many crown vics to law enforcement departments as they could before then switching to Explorer based police vehicles.

I think just the opposite - remaining ICE vehicles will remain in high demand as ICE production ramps down and models are cancelled. If an ICE model becomes a commodity with minimal profit margins it will be killed to make room for other ICE vehicles or new BEVs.

the way the black plastic doesn’t continue on the door - yet it has an indentation for separation - is killing my OCD lol

When you read a thread, and most of the posts are about the title, not the topic ?

Yea the new lincoln ads are about sanctuaries and quiet luxury.

I wouldn’t hold your breath.