2b2 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) It's the Ford Territory facelift... come on guys, you are slipping Edit: beaten to the punch by 2b2 by 1 minute Buy you had pics, so you win! ...so pix huh? how about guessing what this draped SuvCuv was at the Lincoln Design Center's formal opening? thumb-link to enlarged xray version: Edited November 2, 2012 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 ...so pix huh? how about guessing what this draped SuvCuv was at the Lincoln Design Center's formal opening? thumb-link to enlarged xray version: I still believe it'll look something along these lines: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) Here's a clue, look at how BIG it is compared to the smallish MKZ in the foreground... If I was going to guess, I'd say AVIATOR / MKT Edited November 2, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 you sure its a V6 diesel and not the 5 cylinder thats coming to the states?... I-5 from Ranger-Transit was ruled out early on because it didn't meet NVH levels FoA wanted,2.7 V6 Diesel is silky smooth and almost feels petrol like to drive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Here's a clue, look at how BIG it is compared to the smallish MKZ in the foreground... If I was going to guess, I'd say AVIATOR / MKT Agreed...Lincoln Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Here's a clue, look at how BIG it is compared to the smallish MKZ in the foreground... If I was going to guess, I'd say AVIATOR / MKT It's probably on a pedestal, or turntable. But even still, It is a big CUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 It's probably on a pedestal, or turntable. But even still, It is a big CUV. If Lincoln designers were was smart, they would make MKT look more like a big MKX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 It's probably on a pedestal, or turntable. But even still, It is a big CUV. Looks to me to be on the same level as the MKZ in front of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Well that just annoyed me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Well that just annoyed me! LOL, told you.:American website reporting this story is clueless, there's a new Escape parked next to Territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 It's the Ford Territory facelift... come on guys, you are slipping Edit: beaten to the punch by 2b2 by 1 minute That's really nice. I like that the rear glass still opens seperately from the liftgate. I constantly use that feature on my Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Thats one thing I enjoyed about the Explorer as well, just having that separate glass where you can load up the truck and be able to stick something out the window. Thats when it was a SUV, keyword "Utility". Now it's a "Crossover" and that positive feature is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Thats one thing I enjoyed about the Explorer as well, just having that separate glass where you can load up the truck and be able to stick something out the window. Thats when it was a SUV, keyword "Utility". Now it's a "Crossover" and that positive feature is gone My wife went from 2 explorers, an aviator and an expedition with the separate window to an Edge with the power liftgate. Don't miss the window at all. Just hit the button and open the hatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Thats one thing I enjoyed about the Explorer as well, just having that separate glass where you can load up the truck and be able to stick something out the window. Thats when it was a SUV, keyword "Utility". Now it's a "Crossover" and that positive feature is gone I've gotten used to the lack of the separate glass on my Flex, but there are certainly times where it'd be easier to just pop the glass open and put in/grab one small item quickly where it's just more of a hassle to open the entire hatch (and wait for the power liftgate). Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 And then when you do open the hatch, stuff falls out, which is the stuff you want to keep in, but have a separate hole for longer items to stick out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Kolman Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Something about me misses the roll-down window that was in my moms '97 Bronco... Don't like driving around with the rear window hanging out there, and I like driving with all the windows down. But even so that rear window is great after skiing... Just open the window and we can throw our jackets, helmets, boots, etc in the back without worrying about them rolling out. Same with groceries and the little cargo net we have there. As for the power liftgate... Just don't get it... Can't stand waiting for the thing on my friends SUV as it whines itself up and then back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Here's a clue, look at how BIG it is compared to the smallish MKZ in the foreground... If I was going to guess, I'd say AVIATOR / MKT That's the new Lincoln Escape, not Explorer. Way too small, even smaller than the MKX. Edited November 4, 2012 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 That's the new Lincoln Escape, not Explorer. Way too small, even smaller than the MKX. The rear glass area does look rather short for what would be an Aviator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) That's the new Lincoln Escape, not Explorer. Way too small, even smaller than the MKX. If that's the new Lincoln Escape, it's going to have a lot of presence, enough for luxury buyers to look past the term "compact" and see a great vehicle. It just looks impressively big compared to the MKZ in the foreground, anyone who thinks a compact Lincoln won't work better take a look at that photo. Could Lincoln do a "Cadillac ELR" and include a C-max Hybrid as well as MK-Escape or would the showroom get too congested? (Lincoln and a congested showroom...LOL sometimes I amaze myself) Edited November 4, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) If that's the new Lincoln Escape, it's going to have a lot of presence, enough for luxury buyers to look past the term "compact" and see a great vehicle. It just looks impressively big compared to the MKZ in the foreground, anyone who thinks a compact Lincoln won't work better take a look at that photo. Could Lincoln do a "Cadillac ELR" and include a C-max Hybrid as well as MK-Escape or would the showroom get too congested? (Lincoln and a congested showroom...LOL sometimes I amaze myself) A better relative size indicator are the stanchions around the car, which are a standard height of about 38". This tells me that the vehicle is substantially lower than an Explorer or MKX/Edge, which I can then compare to the passenger compartment which is therefore too small to carry more than 5 people. And looking at the overall profile of the vehicle you can see all of the Escape's hard-points in it, while you don't see the Explorer's. Now it's possible that this could be an MKX, but it looks too low, short and narrow to qualify. And again, the roof has the exact profile of the Escape which can't be coincidental. I'm very excited to see this car in particular, and the next MKX. These are two cars that will keep me at Lincoln for a long time if they get them right. Edited November 4, 2012 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 ^ hope those Studio pix make up for the article, BORG If that's the new Lincoln Escape, it's going to have a lot of presence... imho it looks an AWFUL lot like the Evoque (can't figure out its size) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) ^ hope those Studio pix make up for the article, BORG imho it looks an AWFUL lot like the Evoque (can't figure out its size) They sure did, I hadn't seen them. My next car is probably under that tarp which is kinda big And I am actually testing an Evoque on Friday btw Which, as you can imagine, I quite like. I'm counting on Lincoln producing something along those lines. Edited November 4, 2012 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm glad - was thinking of you when I posted them ...I am actually testing an Evoque on Friday... if you have the time (& black sheets ) maybe you could take a draped photo to compare?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) I'm glad - was thinking of you when I posted them if you have the time (& black sheets ) maybe you could take a draped photo to compare?? LOL, If the dealer wasn't so far away I could drive it home and park it next to my new Escape Which, btw, is a nice zippy crossover, but I miss the Edge's serenity and height. The Titanium is a rougher and louder rider, and the back-end has a tendency to hop a bit. But man is it fun to toss around compared to the porky Edge (the MKX was always much spryer than my Edge btw). Edited November 4, 2012 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) LOL, If the dealer wasn't so far away I could drive it home and park it next to my new Escape Which, btw, is a nice zippy crossover, but I miss the Edge's serenity and height. The Titanium is a rougher and louder rider, and the back-end has a tendency to hop a bit. But man is it fun to toss around compared to the porky Edge (the MKX was always much spryer than my Edge btw). I see what you mean regarding stanchions to scale size, that vehicle looks like a great addition that doesn't impinge on MKX but would love to see Lincoln with Aviator too, Utilities are still Ford's main strike weapon, so it's frustrating to see Lincoln not capitalizing on that side of the market, a refreshed Navigator with V6 EB and 5.0 V8 wouldn't hurt either. Sigh, I guess we can hope for the future... Edited November 5, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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