jpd80 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: And add the decision to not offer the 7.3 with an air brake option. Supposedly 7.3 is such a heat generator, air piping would be a problem. I would imagine the Ford Pro Division -or whatever the name "du jour" is-has a "director of excuses". Correct It’s much easier to find reasons to not do something than to press ahead and overcome those perceived issues. They just don’t want to implement industry standard equipment and brands ( beaten to death) The main focus is and always has been to avoiding spending money where perhaps the brass see it as counter to maximising profits on smaller build numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Some 2024 F-650/750 info: 10 Speed Torq-Shift transmission will only be available with the 6.7L Powerstroke, the 7.3L gas engine continues with the 6R-140 (a combination I really wish was available in the F-350). Air brakes finally listed as an option for the gas engine. Tractor package seems to have disappeared. I never saw one anyway... No other changes that I can see as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 14 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: Some 2024 F-650/750 info: 10 Speed Torq-Shift transmission will only be available with the 6.7L Powerstroke, the 7.3L gas engine continues with the 6R-140 (a combination I really wish was available in the F-350). Air brakes finally listed as an option for the gas engine. Tractor package seems to have disappeared. I never saw one anyway... No other changes that I can see as of yet. 7m-good info. good news on air brake option for 7.3. Having grown up in the "general contractor " world, these guys typically own class 6/7 trucks as a tool in the furtherance of their business-which is building...they might need a load of backfill, or gravel or mason sand or they might have to hook the tag trailer up to move a skid steer, TLB etc. Saving $10 g with a 7.3 in a 33,000 lb 750 WITH air to the rear to safely pull a 10 ton tag is a requirement. I wonder if the decision to not offer 10 spd with 7.3 is a supply constraint. How about it Ice Capades...any chance we will see '24 order guides soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: ...How about it Ice Capades...any chance we will see '24 order guides soon? I don't believe that @ice-capades is doing that any longer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, twintornados said: I don't believe that @ice-capades is doing that any longer... Nope but once the vehicles are on the ford.com website I’ve seen the order guides published there by Ford on some models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, akirby said: Nope but once the vehicles are on the ford.com website I’ve seen the order guides published there by Ford on some models. ok guys- I thought he was the one that posted all the '23's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: ok guys- I thought he was the one that posted all the '23's He was but he lost access to the dealer portal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) The ‘24 MDs are already on Ford.com well, the straight frame version is and the 7.3 + 6F140 continues but air brakes are now an option on 7.3 straight frame and 7.3/6.7 ProLoader ( bottom of page under specs) https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/f650-f750/models/f650-sd-gas-straight-frame/ Edited January 14, 2023 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: The ‘24 MDs are already on Ford.com well, the straight frame version is and the 7.3 + 6F140 continues but air brakes are now an option on 7.3 straight frame and 7.3/6.7 ProLoader ( bottom of page under specs) https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/f650-f750/models/f650-sd-gas-straight-frame/ Great. about time on the air brake availability with 7.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 5 hours ago, jpd80 said: The ‘24 MDs are already on Ford.com well, the straight frame version is and the 7.3 + 6F140 continues That’s very brave of them, offering a FWD medium… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: That’s very brave of them, offering a FWD medium… Oops…. After Bob responded, I couldn’t really change it, just hoping that most here know I meant 6R140 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, SoonerLS said: That’s very brave of them, offering a FWD medium… Missed that reference...where is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: Missed that reference...where is it? It was a humorous reference to a typo in jpd's post--a 6F140 would be a FWD transaxle, rather than the 6R140 that they actually have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: It was a humorous reference to a typo in jpd's post--a 6F140 would be a FWD transaxle, rather than the 6R140 that they actually have. thx guys- I usually don't pay attention to the trans chatter- Remember, I'm of the C-6 era? On another point 7M had referenced he thought tractor option was gone. Looks like that was a correct call as I saw no reference to that -unless a typical oversite on whoever puts the "filtered" abbreviated specs they post on Ford website. If true however, as I had mentioned, frequent use for a class 7 is to pull a tag trailer...with air brakes. the tractor option provided a nice pod that attached to dash with parking brake and tractor protection valves as well as air gauge and a "spike'" to apply just trailer brakes. Without that option, another PITA addition a buyer will have to go through. And I think "air/electric to frame end" in the past was a stand alone option as well making it easier for the buyer/body supplier. As for 7m's comment that he has never seen a 650/750 tractor in any case- I think I saw one on the road! But another missed opportunity. Most of the beverage big guys-Coke and Pepsi at least here in Northeast use class 7 tractors with side loader single axle beverage trailers. The 750 PS/Torque shift could handle that service -a diminishing load and closest thing to P & D service when all the carriers in the old days used Fords, GMs and Internationals in that service. Probably head of Ford Pro said..."tractors?-Ford sold that ag business a long time ago-don't need that"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 9 hours ago, SoonerLS said: It was a humorous reference to a typo in jpd's post--a 6F140 would be a FWD transaxle, rather than the 6R140 that they actually have. Can you picture a 6F140?? That would be a beast of a transaxle for sure..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Something I've noticed... We don't have Kroger grocery stores here, but we do have Kroger grocery delivery, and they seem to be exclusively using Transit-based box trucks. I'm presuming they're chassis cabs, what with the refrigeration and all, but I guess they could be cutaways. Edited January 16, 2023 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 JMC is going to launch a new pickup in China. Their current line is based on the T6 and the all-new Ranger is also suppose to be built by JMC-Ford. Therefore, this may be based on the new Ranger: https://www.pcauto.com.cn/nation/3506/35066596.html#ldjc4ta=syjc_wz_3_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Figured you old big truck guys needed a good shot from the KTP era. Guy who sent me this said 125 LT-9000s were headed to Canada 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Drove a Canadian spec LT9000 like that for a couple weeks- Plenty of torque from the 400HP Cat 3406 and even with 16K and 44K axles it rode good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 That picture makes me wonder why Ford never came out with an aluminum cab for the old Louisville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Must watch TV: COZI TV channel is airing a 50th anniversary of the TV show "Emergency." Randolph Mantooth has aged a little bit better than Kevin Tighe. Sorry Kevin! Anyway, remember the old Crowns that LA County Fire used? Then they bought 60 Ward LaFrances so WLF donated one for the TV show so Universal didn't have to steal one out of the barn somewhere for shooting. The yellow Chevy or GMC ambulance was so hated by a director, that he had it intentionally destroyed in an accident in one episode. It's being restored. I suspect the hospital staff got top billing because they were veteran actors, while Mantooth and Tighe were newbies. Nothing to do with Ford you say? Check out the Crown link below for Ford references. The LaFrance brothers were responsible for the Ward LaFrance and American LaFrance. The latter was very popular here in New England since they were built in Elmira New York. I can't understand how they went out of business and later the brand was revived by Freightliner but not for long. Randolph Mantooth is interviewed while sitting in front of a Ford F450, probably a first attack or rescue vehicle. Crown Firecoach - Wikipedia Ward LaFrance Truck Corporation - Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Joe771476 said: Must watch TV: COZI TV channel is airing a 50th anniversary of the TV show "Emergency." It's available on YouTube: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 The show that taught us ringers lactate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, akirby said: The show that taught us ringers lactate. Loved the show....even if they drove a Dodge. Edited January 22, 2023 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 9 hours ago, twintornados said: Loved the show....even if they drove a Dodge. Jack Webb produced 'Emergency', and he was a stickler for details. When the County of Los Angeles started their paramedic program, they used the many Dodge D-300 rescue squads they had in their fleet. So, Universal Studios bought a new Dodge and had it outfitted with the same body and equipment the County used for the show. The pumper originally was an older Crown Firecoach borrowed from the County's reserve fleet, but later when the County bought new Ward LaFrance pumpers (and the show was a big hit $$$) Universal bought their own Ward. Story was they paid for one additional truck on the County's order. L.A. County was a big Chrysler customer but by the late 70's they started buying Chevy C-30's for paramedic squads. They had Ford F-350's in the 90's but went back to Dodge (Ram) in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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