Pioneer Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 But here's the thing: This is the 50th Anniversary edition. Built in the 51st model year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Built in the 51st model year. And the first one was built in the 1st model year, not the 0th model year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Let's see... this year the wife and I will have our 8th wedding anniversary... on the day that we begin year 9 of our marriage. So when we celebrate, are we commemorating the beginning of year 9... or the completion of year 8? Apply that to this Mustang. Does this edition commemorate the beginning of year 51... or the completion of year 50? ------------- Oh, and I like the car, even in white, which is rare for me. Just wish Ford would release those power numbers already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Built in the 51st model year. How many full years of production have there been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 How many full years of production have there been? 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 How many full years of production have there been? I could be sarcastic and say all of them, but currently the Mustang is in its 50th production year. I understand the marketing aspect, I really do, but the math don't lie. 2004 was the 40th. 2004 + 10 = ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The Ford Mustang was brought out five months before the normal start of the 1965 production year. The earliest versions are often referred to as 1964½ models, but VIN coded by Ford and titled as 1965 models[8] with production beginning in Dearborn, Michigan on March 9, 1964[9] and the new car was introduced to the public on April 17, 1964[10] at the New York World's Fair.[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang 2014 - 1965 = 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang 2014 - 1965 = 49 The model in question is not a 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The model in question is not a 2014. The model in question is 2015. If we have 49 years of production models ending in the year 2014 then logically the 2015 model will be year model 50. I thought it was obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The model in question is not a 2014. The point is the 2014 is 49 years old, not 50. The 2015 is therefore 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) I do laugh out loud when someone says a '64.5 Model Mustang. I really REALLY do. There is no such thing. But please, Carry on The '64 1/2 designation was never used by Ford for the Mustang as all Mustangs built between March 9, 1964 and August 15, 1964 carried serial numbers beginning with 5 designating a 1965 model. Ford did advertise the 1963 V-8 and fastback Falcons as '63 1/2 cars as they were introduced in the Spring of 1963. Those cars carried 1963 serial numbers. Ford did print a small number of post cards with the legend 1964 Mustang prior to introduction. These are very rare and valuable. None of the print ads referenced a model year until after intro of the GT in the Spring of1965. The term '64 1/2 was created by Mustang enthusiasts as a shorthand way of differentiating the early '65s from the regular model year '65s. The cars themselves had a number of differences, most notably generator charging systems, F-Code 260, D-Code 289 and U-Code 170 I-6 engines, two, speed heater, Flat edge carpet, color keyed door lock buttons, skirted hood and beveled headlight buckets, large frame mounted horns, unteathered gas cap, shorter 4 3/8" Mustang nameplates, slotted spare tire hold down, hook and eyebolt seat belt mounts and louvered radiator support. Some of these parts did find their way onto cars built after August '64 as the trim and body pieces were used until the supplies were exhausted. (my '65 fastback built in September, had the early style hood and headlight buckets and flat edge carpet). I guess credit for popularizing the term '64 1/2 goes to Ray Miller, who divided his 1978 book Mustang Does It onto separate chapters for 1964 1/2 and 1965. Colin Date's Mustang Collector's Guide does the same. Edited April 17, 2014 by Mark B. Morrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The model in question is 2015. If we have 49 years of production models ending in the year 2014 then logically the 2015 model will be year model 50. I thought it was obvious. OK, I was having a problem telling if your equation was counting model years or production years. If it's model years, then no problem and I agree. The point is the 2014 is 49 years old, not 50. The 2015 is therefore 50. You know how sometimes people can agree with each other and still fight about it? I think I inadvertently did that with you and BlackHorse. :poke: :poke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) 2004 was the 40th. 2004 + 10 = ? Yeah, and they've done that for the past 20 years (viz. model years for the 30th, 35th, 40th, and 45th), so I can see where you're coming from. But, frankly, it's always seemed odd to me that did that. Rather than consider *this* practice to be odd, I consider previous practice to be odd. They celebrated the anniversary of the calendar year of the launch with a corresponding model year, which doesn't quite match up (the 30th anniversary of the Mustang launch was 1994, but why celebrate it with a 1994 model, instead of with a 1995, corresponding to 30 full production runs, as well as 30 full years?) Edited April 17, 2014 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is my favorite discussion since "does the millennium start on Jan 1 2000 or Jan 1 2001?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 the first mustang was made August 17 1964 ... add 50 years and that's close to Job 1 for the 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 All I know is SOMEBODY here is a racist! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The point is the 2014 is 49 years old, not 50. The 2015 is therefore 50. Ok. Get ready to count. 1965 is 1. 1966 is 2. 1967 is 3. 1968 is 4. 1969 is 5. 1970 is 6. 1971 is 7. 1972 is 8. 1973 is 9. 1974 is 10. 1975 is 11. 1976 is 12. 1977 is 13. 1978 is 14. 1979 is 15. 1980 is 16. 1981 is 17. 1982 is 18. 1983 is 19. 1984 is 20. 1985 is 21. 1986 is 22. 1987 is 23. 1988 is 24. 1989 is 25. 1990 is 26. 1991 is 27. 1992 is 28. 1993 is 29. 1994 is 30. 1995 is 31. 1996 is 32. 1997 is 33. 1998 is 34. 1999 is 35. 2000 is 36. 2001 is 37. 2002 is 38. 2003 is 39. 2004 is 40. 2005 is 41. 2006 is 42. 2007 is 43. 2008 is 44. 2009 is 45. 2010 is 46. 2011 is 47. 2012 is 48. 2013 is 49. 2014 is the 50th model year. I can't make it any simpler than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'll just through this in to stir the pot up a little. The 25 YEARS emblem (not anniversary) was installed on ALL models (GT and LX, and w/ 2.3L or 5.0L) from about late March of '89 through early May of '90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) I'm at the NYIAS at the Ford display. Ford is actually giving manicures next to the Mustangs for the press. Only in NY...haha! Edited April 17, 2014 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ps: Mustang looks sweeeeeet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Ok. Get ready to count. 1965 is 1. ... 2014 is the 50th model year. I can't make it any simpler than that. Irrelevant. "Anniversary" refers to *completed* years, ergo: Model Year 1966 = 1st Anniversary of launch Model Year 1967 = 2nd Anniversary of launch Model Year 1968 = 3rd Anniversary of launch ---- Model Year 2015 = 50th Anniversary of launch And as I said, it's not as though I don't understand what you're saying. It's just that Ford's practice from '94 on has been odd. The 25th Anniversary edition was applied to 1990 MY vehicles: http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/Ride/Show/1078 Edited April 17, 2014 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 What Richard said. 1965 is is not the first anniversary - 1966 would have been the first anniversary. If you got married April 17, 1964, today would be your 50th anniversary. It can't be any simpler than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 2014 - 40th anniversary Enough said. You guys can think what you want. If you want to be so arrogant that even simple math won't persuade you to say you're mistaken, then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 2014 - 40th anniversary Enough said. You guys can think what you want. If you want to be so arrogant that even simple math won't persuade you to say you're mistaken, then so be it. You must have meant 2004. As Richard pointed out - that was wrong. Answer this question - if you were married on April 17, 1964 which anniversary would you be celebrating today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 You must have meant 2004. As Richard pointed out - that was wrong. Answer this question - if you were married on April 17, 1964 which anniversary would you be celebrating today? Which model year is in production on 4/17/2014? If it's the '15, then label the '15 as the 50th anniversary edition. If it's the '14, then the '14 should be the 50th anniversary edition. Because after 4/17/2014, the 51st year begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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