blksn8k2 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 OK jpd80, explain what we are seeing here. Hows does this compare to the current truck? Is it just another front clip update for non North American markets before the next gen hits in 2019? Or does this lend any credibility to the Reddit stuff? https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/news/2017/commercial/ford/ranger/spy-pics-next-ford-ranger-spotted-in-melbourne-105614 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 OK jpd80, explain what we are seeing here. Hows does this compare to the current truck? Is it just another front clip update for non North American markets before the next gen hits in 2019? Or does this lend any credibility to the Reddit stuff? Outside of the grill, it doesn't look like anything has changed on them vs the photos I've been looking at. If anything, they are most likely engine testing mules that are getting shipped some place for testing...there was an Edge in the background of one of the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 It does have US style bent exhaust pipe that is generally unacceptable elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Outside of the grill, it doesn't look like anything has changed on them vs the photos I've been looking at. If anything, they are most likely engine testing mules that are getting shipped some place for testing...there was an Edge in the background of one of the shots. I'm only seeing three camo'd Rangers with a different grill. Where's the Edge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justins Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah, the grill is slightly different, but not much else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Could be just a MCE mule for the ROW Ranger. If the US isn't getting the new Ranger for a couple of years, it may take longer to retool the "new" Ranger in other factories. So the MCE is to tide them over until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Hi Guys, these look like early HVAC mules, on existing panels, the lighting is interesting departure but the double bar grille is probably there to approximate the changes in air flow with future grilles or could in fact be NG Global front. Either way, Graeme Wickman said that T6 isn't going anywhere, so NG is heavy evolution, bring all trucks up to spec, inclusion of Nth America this time around means we have a great shot of both better trim levels and more interesting engines and transmissions. Global will of course get the new 2.0 Ecoblue diesel as base, fingers crossed that we all get 3.0 V6 diesel over the 3.2 - i suspect South Africa will be pivotal as they supply North America with 3.2 I-5 diesel - if SA announces plant upgrades the we're on. Mexico get 2.5 I-4 Gas engine, way past its use by date, could we see 2.3 DI and EB 2.3 combination for Nth America? That would smooth the path nicely with a 10-speed auto... Edited January 28, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) And that grille on the mules is similar to the Everest, so maybe that's an update coming later this year. Edited January 28, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm only seeing three camo'd Rangers with a different grill. Where's the Edge? On second thought on a bigger screen it might be another Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Capture.PNG On second thought on a bigger screen it might be another Ranger Yep, three Rangers with Everest type grilles - that's gotta be the NG Global Ranger evolving on with the Everest look.... maybe this is why North America gets a different look. Just imagine that vehicle with a slightly smaller '17 F150 grille and head light set up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Finally!! Some Ranger spy shots.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yep, three Rangers with Everest type grilles - that's gotta be the NG Global Ranger evolving on with the Everest look.... maybe this is why North America gets a different look. Just imagine that vehicle with a slightly smaller '17 F150 grille and head light set up... I was hoping this was just another MCE for you guys. The rest of the truck looks to be SOS. Seems plausible that you would get another minor update before 2019. Kind of hard to imagine there would be this little outward change for the NG with the amount of time that has supposedly been spent on the design. Or are these just platform mules wearing old skin and Everest grilles? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Or are these just platform mules wearing old skin and Everest grilles? this is possible since the program is being expedited a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) I was hoping this was just another MCE for you guys. The rest of the truck looks to be SOS. Seems plausible that you would get another minor update before 2019. Kind of hard to imagine there would be this little outward change for the NG with the amount of time that has supposedly been spent on the design. Or are these just platform mules wearing old skin and Everest grilles? One more MCE for global markets would make sense given that the NG is still almost two years away. This one may be more about the new 2.0 Ecoblue replacing the 2.2 Puma diesel. Edited January 29, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Which Ranger model now get the side exhaust bent pipe? These look like drivetrain mules using current body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 One more MCE for global markets would make sense given that the NG is still almost two years away. This one may be more about the new 2.0 Ecoblue replacing the 2.2 Puma diesel. That's a good point to consider. We won't see our version of the Ranger until next year at the earliest (assuming the 2019 represents the model year); revising the grille for ROW models until then isn't that crazy of a thought. The differences I see in the picture are limited to the grille insert and exhaust pipe. Unless they're planning on 1) going with a very long product cycle for the Ranger (whereas introducing the ROW Ranger essentially as-is here in the US would apply), or 2) introducing the ROW Ranger as-is, with a quick complete redesign a year or two later, I just don't think it makes sense for us to be getting the existing model with a slightly different grille, as the ROW vehicle would continue aging, and will already be 4 years old at the point of the launch of our model. Which Ranger model now get the side exhaust bent pipe? These look like drivetrain mules using current body. I agree that that's mainly what we're seeing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 If those mules aren't wearing a Everest face I just need to flush my eyes with battery acid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 One more MCE for global markets would make sense given that the NG is still almost two years away. This one may be more about the new 2.0 Ecoblue replacing the 2.2 Puma diesel. But with the current MCE just launched in the 2nd quarter in 2016, you think they would do another before the next Gen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 But with the current MCE just launched in the 2nd quarter in 2016, you think they would do another before the next Gen? Also, a new grille insert =/= an MCE as far as I'm concerned. If it's just getting a new grille insert for ROW (the same one Everest uses) and maybe an additional powertain (remember, Ford decoupled redesigns and powertrain changes a while back, so they don't necessarily happen at the same time), that's not a big deal, and could make sense before the new one comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Those mules have an all new front clip, bumper, lower valance, headlamps, grille etc etc. The current Rangers new front clip and rear end changes where just launched a few months ago. I cannot see Ford doing another new front clip MCE before the next gen which is due to begin production sometime next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Those mules have an all new front clip, bumper, lower valance, headlamps, grille etc etc. The current Rangers new front clip and rear end changes where just launched a few months ago. I cannot see Ford doing another new front clip MCE before the next gen which is due to begin production sometime next year. Hmm....guess I don't know what the current one looks like then. Do you think you could post some pictures of it for me? Edited February 2, 2017 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) This is the current facelifted model Lots of pics here http://ranger.fordpresskits.com/ Edited February 2, 2017 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Looks to me like they're just changing the Ranger's front end to the Everest's front end.....meaning a grille and bumper change. Edited February 2, 2017 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I have to say I like the looks of the Everest. It's pretty sharp. The current gen Ranger could benefit from the Everest front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Is it possible the US will get the new and improved Ranger first but other markets won't get it until a year or two later? A minor facelift would make more sense for the ROW markets if the new model was still 3-4 model years out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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