akirby Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Is the 9 speed even ready yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Surprise return of Mercury and Edsel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The could be doing a small update just to keep up with the Pilot/Highlander/Traverse. 9 Speed, Better Crash testing scores, auto braking, better headlights, new 3.5L, digital dash etc. Better headlights? It has LED headlights standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Better headlights? It has LED headlights standard. Agreed. The headlights on our explorer are phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Better headlights? It has LED headlights standard. Thankfully, because the headlights on our 2013 Sport were not phenomenal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I still think Expedition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Thankfully, because the headlights on our 2013 Sport were not phenomenal. This was one of the main reason we got the refreshed model instead of an older sport. I'd suggest test driving one at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This was one of the main reason we got the refreshed model instead of an older sport. I'd suggest test driving one at night. There is a huge difference in headlight quality between our Raptor and our Explorer. It's like night and day, no pun intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 There is a huge difference in headlight quality between our Raptor and our Explorer. It's like night and day, no pun intended. I ordered the LED's on my '17 Super Duty, even though I had to add a couple things I didn't really want or need just to be able to get them. They are amazing lights, and I can't wait to get it to really try them out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I ordered the LED's on my '17 Super Duty, even though I had to add a couple things I didn't really want or need just to be able to get them. They are amazing lights, and I can't wait to get it to really try them out! Yeah, I believe they're the same units as in my dad's Raptor (the LED light itself, not the entire housing - I know the headlight assembly is different, but I think the actual lights used are the same), and those are great headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm just going by the differnce between the Halogens in the Raptor and the LED's in a buddy's '16 Explorer. The older halogens give better distance and more even light distribution at least for my eyes, maybe it is because of the height. The Explorer is super bright in front of the vehicle but is splotchy in pattern. Just because somehting has LED/HID doens't mean they have good distance or light pattern. The HID's in the Raptor gained in later model years are even better at night. The LED's in the new F-150 are great, though in the new Fusion are extreamly bright but have a sharp cutoff at a short distance. The lowbeam Headlights (HID or Not) in the Edge just suck. I will say this some of my headlights expierence with new Ford cars was in rental cars so they might not be aimed properly. Speaking of Lighting most Euro Fords Fog lights function as turning lights as well, (turn on a turn signal, or turn the steering wheel and the right or left fog light comes on at below 5mph to aid in seeing near the front of the vehicle) any one know the reason why this isn't enabled on US cars and could it be if you can get into the programming module? I think the Transit Connect is the only Ford that has the option here. Seems an easy feature to add at no cost to cars that have Fog lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 It's most likely illegal based on DOT regulations. I've heard they are contemplating changes to better align with Europe (and the 21st century). Current lighting regulations are silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 It's most likely illegal based on DOT regulations. I've heard they are contemplating changes to better align with Europe (and the 21st century). Current lighting regulations are silly. I don't think so. Many BMW, Mercedes, and Audi vehicles have cornering lights either within the headlight assembly or in the fog light area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I posted this in the Expedition thread, but I feel it also applies here.... I don't know if this is accurate, but this site is saying... We received an email from Ford inviting us to the Dallas Cowboys’ training facility early next month. The reason? To witness the unveiling of “an all-new vehicle that is the very definition of adaptable, smart and capable,” said the invitation.Hmmm… what could that be? These three adjectives could be applied to many vehicles, especially when at the hands of a trend-setting automaker’s marketing department. After pondering what Ford could have in store, we believe that when the massive cover comes off next month in Texas, we’ll be looking at the next-generation Ford Expedition. Sure, it’s just a guess. But it’s an educated guess. Here’s why:...... http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/ford-secret-texas-vehicle-reveal/ I've read this coming Tuesday is when this is supposed to take place. --- If this is true, that would mean something else debuting at Chicago.....which could lend credibility to the reports of some sort of Explorer (whether another refresh or a full redesign) debuting at Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I posted this in the Expedition thread, but I feel it also applies here.... I don't know if this is accurate, but this site is saying... http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/ford-secret-texas-vehicle-reveal/ I've read this coming Tuesday is when this is supposed to take place. --- If this is true, that would mean something else debuting at Chicago.....which could lend credibility to the reports of some sort of Explorer (whether another refresh or a full redesign) debuting at Chicago. Expedition Tuesday, Explorer MCE at Chicago is the last I heard. CD6 still on track for MY2020 in mid CY2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What kind of changes could be expected for the Explorer for such a short run? I must say I would welcome some more cosmetic changes as I'm not a big fan of the current grill or wheels. While we are at it change the center stack as well to accommodate a bigger screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What kind of changes could be expected for the Explorer for such a short run? I must say I would welcome some more cosmetic changes as I'm not a big fan of the current grill or wheels. While we are at it change the center stack as well to accommodate a bigger screen. I haven't heard specifics, my source likes it... expects the '18 Explorer and Expedition to be the center of a big push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) What kind of changes could be expected for the Explorer for such a short run? I must say I would welcome some more cosmetic changes as I'm not a big fan of the current grill or wheels. While we are at it change the center stack as well to accommodate a bigger screen. Well, there's two main camps of thought: 1) Another refresh - a nip an tuck to the front/rear/interior - to last until 2019 or so when a CD6 model would debut (in whatever form that platform takes) 2) A redesign based on CD4 - this would more or less represent a stopgap redesign for a few years before a CD6 model would replace it. An outlier thought could be that we'll see CD6 debut with this Explorer, rather than the 2019 MKZ as has been thought. --- A bigger screen would require a complete redesign. Edited February 1, 2017 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 IF it is the Explorer, I sure didn't see this coming. That's pretty exciting info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When is the CD8 coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't think so. Many BMW, Mercedes, and Audi vehicles have cornering lights either within the headlight assembly or in the fog light area. I'm not sure that's what jasonj80 was describing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When is the CD8 coming? Right after CD7, silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yeah, I believe they're the same units as in my dad's Raptor (the LED light itself, not the entire housing - I know the headlight assembly is different, but I think the actual lights used are the same), and those are great headlights. Yep, I believe you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well, there's two main camps of thought: 1) Another refresh - a nip an tuck to the front/rear/interior - to last until 2019 or so when a CD6 model would debut (in whatever form that platform takes) 2) A redesign based on CD4 - this would more or less represent a stopgap redesign for a few years before a CD6 model would replace it. An outlier thought could be that we'll see CD6 debut with this Explorer, rather than the 2019 MKZ as has been thought. --- A bigger screen would require a complete redesign. I think it would almost have to be a MCE of the current platform - probably to align the styling with the new Expedition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Expedition Tuesday, Explorer MCE at Chicago is the last I heard. CD6 still on track for MY2020 in mid CY2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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