coupe3w Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Ford did it way back in '68 https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/354918/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I have to disagree with this. They are definitely more complex. Even in SOHC you still have 2 cams, a long ass timing chain, more gears, and chain tensioners. And DOHC is even more complex, 4 cams, more chains, etc, etc The biggest cost "hit" is the long timing chain. Tensioners, chain guides are pretty inexpensive. Roller finger followers and hydraulic lash adjusters are about the same cost as roller hydraulic lifters and rockers. Making a "smaller package" is a red herring ! This thing is only going to go in (remaining) E-Series, Super Duty and Medium Duty chassis. The only one that might be a tight fit is the E-Series. DOHC is highly unlikely (cost), but 3V is a good possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I like to think ford has aspirations beyond heavy trucks for this engine. I'm really hoping we see 2-3 different displacements (~6L for base F2/3/450 and base E series), 7.0/7.3 for optional F250/350/450, optional E series, optional raptor/limited F150, optional Navi maybe, special edition Mustang maybe, and then standard on F5/650, then finally a 8+ litre version optional on F650 and standard on F750) Ford could really take a lot of product in unprecedented directions with this motor line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I like to think ford has aspirations beyond heavy trucks for this engine. I'm really hoping we see 2-3 different displacements (~6L for base F2/3/450 and base E series), 7.0/7.3 for optional F250/350/450, optional E series, optional raptor/limited F150, optional Navi maybe, special edition Mustang maybe, and then standard on F5/650, then finally a 8+ litre version optional on F650 and standard on F750) Ford could really take a lot of product in unprecedented directions with this motor line. . Don't forget stationary markets. Irrigation, power generation, etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 And the aftermarket engine swaps. Finally a Ford V8 in a Chevy......LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 More fuel for the fire from today. http://www.fordnxt.com/news/raptor-rumored-to-receive-7x-engine-but-what-about-mustang/ BTW I used to buy 302 and 351 marine engines under 2 grand complete. They were absolutely perfect for the street rod crowd. Ford canceled them and handed the business to Gm. We wonder why so many old Fords with scrub engines. Its Fords own fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Does anyone truly believe that this will be a OHV engine? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Does anyone truly believe that this will be a OHV engine? Really? I don't, but if it is, I think that just about guarantees that it's a truck-only mill, and most likely only in the F250 and up. Edited May 30, 2018 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I don't, but if it is, I think that just about guarantees that it's a truck-only mill, and most likely only in the F250 and up. Personally, I think it's a truck-only mil for the F250 and up regardless. Well, truck and motor home chassis. I'll be surprised if we see this in anything smaller than a Super Duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Personally, I think it's a truck-only mil for the F250 and up regardless. Well, truck and motor home chassis. I'll be surprised if we see this in anything smaller than a Super Duty. If it's OHC, I think the chances of seeing it in a Raptor are pretty good. If it has pushrods, that means, I think, that it's built around a heavy truck duty cycle, which means it wouldn't be suitable for the Raptor or Mustang. Edited May 30, 2018 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 A pushrod motor with dual cams, ti-vct, and a proper 3 valve head would give up almost nothing to an ohc design like the 6.2 or even the 5.0. And it would fit in places the two smaller (displacement) engines wouldn't. Sounds like a win win win to me and very easy to put it in raptor, mustang, Navi and anything else that suits Ford's fancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 More fuel for the fire from today. http://www.fordnxt.com/news/raptor-rumored-to-receive-7x-engine-but-what-about-mustang/ BTW I used to buy 302 and 351 marine engines under 2 grand complete. They were absolutely perfect for the street rod crowd. Ford canceled them and handed the business to Gm. We wonder why so many old Fords with scrub engines. Its Fords own fault! Theres a marine version of the 6.2. https://www.indmar.com/engines/raptor-575/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifs66 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Theres a marine version of the 6.2. https://www.indmar.com/engines/raptor-575/ Does the typical 6.2 truck engine have dual spark plugs; or does Indmar use special heads? This marine version of the 6.2 must be one of the best kept secrets in the industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Does the typical 6.2 truck engine have dual spark plugs; or does Indmar use special heads? This marine version of the 6.2 must be one of the best kept secrets in the industry.I'm pretty sure the truck 6.2 uses dual spark plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) I'm pretty sure the truck 6.2 uses dual spark plugs. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Boss_engine The 6.2 L (379 cu in) V8 is the main variant of the Boss engine. The V8 shares design similarities with the modular engine family such as a deep-skirt block with cross-bolted main caps, crankshaft-driven gerotor oil pump, overhead cam valve train arrangement, and bellhousing bolt pattern. In particular, the 6.2-L features a two-valve per cylinder SOHC valve train with roller-rocker shafts and two spark plugs per cylinder, as well as dual-equal variable cam timing. Just as notable is that they use a much wider 4.53 in (115 mm) bore spacing (compared to the Modular's 3.937 in (100.0 mm)), allowing for the use of larger bore diameters and valves. The 6.2-L V8 has a bore diameter of 4.0150 in (101.98 mm) with a 3.740 in (95.0 mm) stroke. It has lightweight aluminum cylinder heads and pistons, but makes use of a cast-iron cylinder block for extra durability since most applications for the engine will be trucks Edited May 31, 2018 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The 6.2L my brother had a couple years back definitely had 2/cyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The 6.2L my brother had a couple years back definitely had 2/cyl. . ....and a manual transmission. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 . ....and a manual transmission. and definitely a regular cab. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 and definitely a regular cab. otherwise it would be a status symbol. Oh wait, that's only if it's a diesel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 . ....and a manual transmission. Geez! All I did was state that he had a 6.2L Ford that had 2 plugs put cylinder. What makes you guys think it was a manual transmission (not possible because the manual was done before the 6.2 hit the scene) or that it was a regular cab? If you must know, it was a white 2013 F250 XLT supercab short bed 4x4. He bought it used in like '14 I think. Must have had the max GVWR and/or snow plow prep packages because it was the worst riding truck I've ever driven (even by 3/4 and 1 ton standards). He got tired of the ride after a few years and dumped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Geez! All I did was state that he had a 6.2L Ford that had 2 plugs put cylinder. What makes you guys think it was a manual transmission (not possible because the manual was done before the 6.2 hit the scene) or that it was a regular cab? If you must know, it was a white 2013 F250 XLT supercab short bed 4x4. He bought it used in like '14 I think. Must have had the max GVWR and/or snow plow prep packages because it was the worst riding truck I've ever driven (even by 3/4 and 1 ton standards). He got tired of the ride after a few years and dumped it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) I bet it really confuses you guys that I once bought (and still own) a super cab pickup, doesn't it? Edited May 31, 2018 by Sevensecondsuv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I bet it really confuses you guys that I once bought (and still own) a super cab pickup, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Ok, that one I don't get.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I bet it really confuses you guys that I once bought (and still own) a super cab pickup, doesn't it? Showoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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