rmc523 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/14/jeep-gladiator-pickup-truck-leak/ Quote According to the leaked document, the 2020 Jeep Gladiator will come standard with a 3.6-liter V6 engine that can be mated to an eight-speed automatic or six-speed manual transmission. We'd wager it'll offer the same 285 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque as in other Wrangler applications. Bigger news is the optional 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V6. If it's in the same state of tune as it is in the Grand Cherokee, the Gladiator's diesel will spin out 240 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque.The Gladiator's spec sheet lists its max tow rating at 7,600 pounds (probably with the diesel engine) and payload at 1,600 pounds. Two four-wheel-drive systems will be available, and beefy Dana 44 axles joined with electronic lockers front and rear should make the Gladiator a well-sorted off-road machine. Other noteworthy bits include an electronic swaybar disconnect and 33-inch tires.One thing that the Jeep Gladiator will offer that no competitor can match is its open-air capability. We'd expect a soft top to be standard, and this document says two hard tops will also be offered. A five-foot bed offers practicality, and a fold-down windshield ought to please the purists. As for style, well, it's clearly a Jeep. And we mean that in a good way. See for yourself in the image gallery up above. Edited November 30, 2018 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Meh, I don't think the Wrangler look translates well to a pickup. I'm sure the Jeep faithful will show up to buy it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I hope that's a photoshop otherwise they just phoned in that design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, akirby said: I hope that's a photoshop otherwise they just phoned in that design. Did you expect much different style wise? It's a Wrangler with a bed. They didn't even change the rear doors. Interesting that the CHMSL is on the tailgate above the handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Did you expect much different style wise? It's a Wrangler with a bed. They didn't even change the rear doors. Interesting that the CHMSL is on the tailgate above the handle. Probably because the roof looks removable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, MY93SHO said: Probably because the roof looks removable. I know why, just interesting, as I'm surprised they're able to put it on a removable panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 It probably didn't cost much to add a pickup bed to a Wrangler, which is why they did it. The Jeep faithful will love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Have to admit, FAR more personality than the Ranger. Not something I would want over Ranger but Jeep can probably sell these for more money. They probably have another influential phenom on its hands. Jeep really is a superstar in the automotive world right now, even Ford is hinging its turnaround on beating Jeep. And yes, there is a soft-top convertible version, something you definitely can't get on any other truck. Pretty awesome! Edited November 14, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 What did you guys expect? Its literally been referred to as the "Wrangler Pickup" for years now. Did you expect something different at all? It looks fantastic and my bet is that it is going to sell a bunch at a pretty penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Maybe it's the rear window - just looks goofy to me. I agree it will sell either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, fordmantpw said: Meh, I don't think the Wrangler look translates well to a pickup. I'm sure the Jeep faithful will show up to buy it though. Yup, reminds me of the H2T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Assimilator said: Have to admit, FAR more personality than the Ranger. If you consider a gap toothed pig snort laugh of a personality "FAR" more, then OK. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I like the looks of this Jeep and as stated the top can come off which is a unique feature. Unfortunately I think it will cut into Ranger sales. Slap the Jeep name on just about anything and it will sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 14 hours ago, tbone said: I like the looks of this Jeep and as stated the top can come off which is a unique feature. Unfortunately I think it will cut into Ranger sales. Slap the Jeep name on just about anything and it will sell. It might take some Ranger sales, but it's also going to take sales from the other midsizers. That said, I think it'll carve its own niche more than anything - just like Wrangler does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, rmc523 said: It might take some Ranger sales, but it's also going to take sales from the other midsizers. That said, I think it'll carve its own niche more than anything - just like Wrangler does. Wrangler is hardly a niche these days selling in record numbers. Jeep timing couldn't be better - right now when anything 'Jeep' is considered really cool, and will sell. I am guessing that Toyota will stay #1, for no rational reason other than its a Toyota, this Jeep may steal some Toyota sales, and certainly jump ahead of Ranger and Colorado in 'cool' factor for the non-Ford and Chevy loyalists. Ford and Chevy will likely fight for 3rd place in retail, but their work truck and fleet options will make them better sellers overall. Right now - Jeep can do no wrong, even the Fiat Renegade sells well. Many things in this world are not rational. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 14 hours ago, tbone said: I like the looks of this Jeep and as stated the top can come off which is a unique feature. Unfortunately I think it will cut into Ranger sales. Slap the Jeep name on just about anything and it will sell. I am afraid you are correct - the young non loyal Ford buyer will take this any day over a Ranger or Chevy Colorado. Simply because 'Jeep' is the cool brand right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think you're way overestimating the Jeep coolness factor and underestimating price as a sales factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, rmc523 said: It might take some Ranger sales, but it's also going to take sales from the other midsizers. That said, I think it'll carve its own niche more than anything - just like Wrangler does. I don’t disagree. Every manufacturer will be contending with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Ford and Chevy guys are pretty loyal - their mid-size offerings are solid and they will have the commercial and fleet market. Maybe Toyota should be the most worried. This may be a shot across their bow - the young attention seeking buyer who wants the coolest - most noticeable truck among the group. For sure Jeep will offer cooler colors than Ranger. Last time I looked Ranger had one blue shade, one red, and whole bunch of shades of black to white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, akirby said: I think you're way overestimating the Jeep coolness factor and underestimating price as a sales factor. So a $45-50K Ranger Raptor if it ever comes, will be a sales dud... Why would anyone think this Jeep will not be in the same price range as a equally equipped Toyota Tacoma, Ranger or Colorado? They are all pretty expensive. This Jeep will be the talk of the town for months to come - the Bronco better show soon and it better be damn nice if Ford wants to stay in the game. Edited November 15, 2018 by Kev-Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 54 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: So a $45-50K Ranger Raptor if it ever comes, will be a sales dud... Why would anyone think this Jeep will not be in the same price range as a equally equipped Toyota Tacoma, Ranger or Colorado? They are all pretty expensive. This Jeep will be the talk of the town for months to come - the Bronco better show soon and it better be damn nice if Ford wants to stay in the game. Holy misinterpretation Batman! I was only saying that the popularity of small Jeep utilities amongst younger folks probably has more to do with low prices than "because it's a Jeep and jeeps are cool". This truck will not be in the cheap category but it will appeal to some Wrangler buyers and to some midsized pickup buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Kev-Mo said: Ford and Chevy guys are pretty loyal - their mid-size offerings are solid and they will have the commercial and fleet market. Maybe Toyota should be the most worried. This may be a shot across their bow - the young attention seeking buyer who wants the coolest - most noticeable truck among the group. For sure Jeep will offer cooler colors than Ranger. Last time I looked Ranger had one blue shade, one red, and whole bunch of shades of black to white. Young attention seeking buyers don't typically have enough income to buy a $40K new vehicle. I think this will steal as many Wrangler sales as it does mid-sized truck sales from other mfrs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I dunno, Toyota's loyalty factor in mid-sized pickups is almost the same as it is with GM/Ford/Ram. That might change now since they have more competetion now. I also see Ford having no problem selling 45K Ranger Raptors or 50K plus Bronco Raptor's either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) All these guys saying what does it have that the Taco, Ranger or Colorado don’t have? A FRIGGIN REMOVABLE TOP! SOLID FRONT AXLES FERGAWDSAKES! REMOVABLE DOORS! IT LOOK JUST LIKE A COOL WRANGLER Basically, all the things that make the Wrangler sell like gangbusters when any other SUV should logically be chosen by a potential buyer. It's the anti-generic pickup and I am willing to be it will be a goldmine. Edited November 15, 2018 by Anthony 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, Anthony said: All these guys saying what does it have that the Taco, Ranger or Colorado don’t have? A FRIGGIN REMOVABLE TOP! SOLID FRONT AXLES FERGAWDSAKES! REMOVABLE DOORS! IT LOOK JUST LIKE A COOL WRANGLER Basically, all the things that make the Wrangler sell like gangbusters when any other SUV should logically be chosen by a potential buyer. It's the anti-generic pickup and I am willing to be it will be a goldmine. I agree, but who is the Wranglers direct competitor? The Gladiator will have some semi-direct competition. And it will probably scavenge some Wrangler sales but not enough to hurt Wrangler. I agree that the Taco is the one to worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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