fordtech1 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/2019-chevy-silverado-1500-fuel-economy/ ford increased its capability and all but still improved fuel mileage. Typical GM excuse. Edited December 9, 2018 by fordtech1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Oops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Maybe that rumor that the new 3.0 diesels mpg being not that great is true if everything else is same or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Womp womp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Looks like GM now knows where to start with those layoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Amazing how GM just keeps shooting itself in the foot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I love the response from GM.. well we increase payload and made the bed bigger.... lol.. so yes a THREE MPG drop in fuel economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 It's probably those Flying Nun wings next the the headlights... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) GM is WAY underspending its competition which is why it's so profitable, and noting magnifies their lack of product spending than in their complete disinterest in doing anything ground breaking with their most important products. They better have a stunning electrification strategy to replace this mess shortly because they better be saving all of their money for something. And yet they have 4 completely unique body designs for the same freaking truck! Ford drivetrain reminds me of Apple's iPhone Silicon, they are SO far out ahead and nobody is even remotely closing in on them at this point. The only thing that can change that is if the competition comes up with a fundamentally different drivetrain innovation that Ford can't lead in. Edited December 10, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The only thing I can think of that comes close to what Ford is supposedly working on with drivetrains is Mazda's new Sky Active-X engine, however they are too small of a company for it to make as big of an impact as it could/should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Assimilator said: GM is WAY underspending its competition which is why it's so profitable, and noting magnifies their lack of product spending than in their complete disinterest in doing anything ground breaking with their most important products. They better have a stunning electrification strategy to replace this mess shortly because they better be saving all of their money for something. And yet they have 4 completely unique body designs for the same freaking truck! Ford drivetrain reminds me of Apple's iPhone Silicon, they are SO far out ahead and nobody is even remotely closing in on them at this point. The only thing that can change that is if the competition comes up with a fundamentally different drivetrain innovation that Ford can't lead in. This is one thing that you don’t see discussed much - Ford’s investment in new drivetrains the last 10 years or so. In addition to all the ecoboosts (does anyone have that many turbo engines) the 3.3L Duratec and 5.0L Coyote and 5.2L FPC (forgot the cool nickname) are relatively new. The new 7.3L (if/when it gets here), the new hybrid capable 10R80 and 8 speed FWD trannies. The 6.7L diesel isn’t that old and a new heavy duty tranny is also on the way. Performance hybrid 3.0LTT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, akirby said: forgot the cool nickname Voodoo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I totally predicted this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30 OTT 6 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Tighter EPA testing procedures may be catching up to GM. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15347001/epa-refines-guidelines-for-fuel-economy-testing-promises-stricter-enforcement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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