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19 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

In time. We're still gearing up for full production in a sense that we're still getting parts racks and skids for body shop in. We have just enough for what we need right now to run, but for instance Body was sent home early last night because we were running low on skids. There should be more coming in soon I hope. 

It sounds like by the time the plant gets up to speed at full production, it will be time to do it all over again for the next gen.

my local dealer had 6 rangers for a few weeks. I went in the other day to look at them and 4 were gone. Luckily I got to see a lariat for the first time. I really liked the lariat, just wish the back seat had about 2 more inches.

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2 hours ago, chris532 said:

It's possible, with Ranger and Bronco coming out of one plant, even on a 3 crew schedule, I think unlikely. Taco has 2 plants able to produce. If Bronco is a success I think it will get priority over Ranger. If Ford gets 100-120k a year in Ranger sales they will be more than happy. I would be happy to be wrong though.

You do realize that in 2017 we built 250k Focus and C-Max on 2 shifts right?

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33 minutes ago, T-dubz said:

It sounds like by the time the plant gets up to speed at full production, it will be time to do it all over again for the next gen.

my local dealer had 6 rangers for a few weeks. I went in the other day to look at them and 4 were gone. Luckily I got to see a lariat for the first time. I really liked the lariat, just wish the back seat had about 2 more inches.

The only thing that would be different would be the parts racks. The skids for the line usually don't change when new models come out, they just replace the pins and nylon bumpers to fit the new body, the actual structure doesn't change.

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3 hours ago, ausrutherford said:

So F-Series alone outsold GM's entire truck line by over 9,000 units.

 

Nothing to worry about folks...🤫

Bububububbuubuu  if you add the 4 trucks plus express plus equinox plus volt plus bolt, Chevy winsssss !!!!!!!!!

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On 4/1/2019 at 12:07 PM, Deanh said:

only complaint Ive had is the rear tailgate and  gaps through which one cah literally see light through...one customer is even going so far as to fabricate some rubber flaps its driving him absolutely bat crazy...

I was wondering about this complaint, so I checked out my friends Ranger and I can understand why people complained. I think it’s a small oversight on Ford’s part, since you can see right through. I don’t see it as a body panel quality issue, more like a trim issue, which doesn’t seal the box up well. If you put a tonneau cover on it to keep the elements out, that would be an issue. Seems like a real opportunity for the aftermarket.  

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On 4/3/2019 at 6:09 PM, HotRunrGuy said:

Yeah, but not seeing any erosion of Tacoma numbers yet,,,  Only 1 month (8/2018) had greater sales in the last 10 years.

HRG

toyota Tacoma sales #.JPG

I’ve spent a fair amount of time in California over the last few months and it sure appears Cali May be the Tacoma capital of the US. There are tons of Tacos out there. With that said, it may well be the foreign car capital of the US as well.  It sure felt like a 5:1 ratio or more foreign verse domestic. Kind of unfortunate really. 

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39 minutes ago, tbone said:

I was wondering about this complaint, so I checked out my friends Ranger and I can understand why people complained. I think it’s a small oversight on Ford’s part, since you can see right through. I don’t see it as a body panel quality issue, more like a trim issue, which doesn’t seal the box up well. If you put a tonneau cover on it to keep the elements out, that would be an issue. Seems like a real opportunity for the aftermarket.  

I noticed it too on models I saw in the showroom.

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41 minutes ago, tbone said:

I was wondering about this complaint, so I checked out my friends Ranger and I can understand why people complained. I think it’s a small oversight on Ford’s part, since you can see right through. I don’t see it as a body panel quality issue, more like a trim issue, which doesn’t seal the box up well. If you put a tonneau cover on it to keep the elements out, that would be an issue. Seems like a real opportunity for the aftermarket.  

Previous pickups I had had a fairly large gap at the bottom of the tailgate, road spray would come up into the box all the time.

HRG

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12 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said:

Previous pickups I had had a fairly large gap at the bottom of the tailgate, road spray would come up into the box all the time.

HRG

My F150s have been sealed up pretty nicely so I know Ford is capable of addressing it. 

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9 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

You do realize that in 2017 we built 250k Focus and C-Max on 2 shifts right?

Yes. Ranger is a slower line speed, about a 100 units a day less. So you can take 25k a shift off that. My opinion is mostly based off a interview with Joe Hindrichs saying Ford could sell 120K Rangers a year without effecting F150 sales. Ford is not going chase a sales crown with the Ranger if any chance of hurting F series sales. Right now Ranger prices are probably help F150 sales. People coming in for Ranger and being sold F150 ounce they see small price difference with available incentives.

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7 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

If they can build 650 a shift at Dearborn and Kansas City there's no reason they can't do that at MAP with Rangers. 

Answer is management doesn't want to, they would sooner build less and charge higher prices  because they're enamored with profit as a percentage of  revenue.  Build more, sell more by adding more lower trim units to the mix  and the revenue goes up but the profit percentage  is lower which equals fail to new age Ford execs. Welcome to the new paradigm that says expending resources to make more profit beyond a declared sweet spot is not cost effective.

Q1 average transaction price on rich trim mix of 90% crew cabs was $37,882 which is  $4,530 more than segment average...

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To me it's not really a question of whether or not they want to right now, it's whether or not they need to, and right now they don't. The primary focus is and should be getting things running and bringing in more of what we need to keep running, like parts racks and body skids. 

If somehere down the line they need to speed the line up and build more I really don't see a reason why they can't. We'll see what happens when the paint shop gets it's overdue upgrades and the Bronco comes in. 

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36 minutes ago, ausrutherford said:

Ford those wondering, Ford sold over 277,000 units of the Ranger last year globally.

That is with 0 units from the US or Canada...

Not all from 1 plant though, there's 2 or 3 I think. 

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1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

Not all from 1 plant though, there's 2 or 3 I think. 

South Africa, Argentina, Thailand, and Vietnam (CKD).

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1 hour ago, ausrutherford said:

South Africa, Argentina, Thailand, and Vietnam (CKD).

There's a plant I think in Nigeria too that assembles them knock down kit form. Not sure if that's still open or not though. 

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Ranger Production/sales  in 2018

South Africa = 98,505 units (63,364 units exported, mostly to Europe) ...........LINK

Thailand =  139,502 sales to Asia Pacific...........LINK

South America .......can't find any data on Pacheco's production

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On 4/7/2019 at 10:41 PM, fuzzymoomoo said:

There's a plant I think in Nigeria too that assembles them knock down kit form. Not sure if that's still open or not though. 

Fuzzy, questions, do the Rangers get a primer bath or is the primer sprayed on?  Has the retooling started in preparation of the Bronco assembly?  Lastly do you by chance know how many Rangers you guys produced in April?

Loving my Ranger, you guys put together a great truck!!!

Thanks, Bob

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2 hours ago, bluerangerlariat said:

Fuzzy, questions, do the Rangers get a primer bath or is the primer sprayed on?  Has the retooling started in preparation of the Bronco assembly?  

Back in the day with the original Ranger and even the Escort, they get dipped into an e-coat bath then dried off before getting painted.

Bronco retooling prob won't start taking place till next year. 

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51 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

Back in the day with the original Ranger and even the Escort, they get dipped into an e-coat bath then dried off before getting painted.

Bronco retooling prob won't start taking place till next year. 

 

I think that’s pretty standard now.  Anti-corrosive dip so it can get into all the nooks and crannies then sprayed primer and top coat(s).

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5 minutes ago, akirby said:

 

I think that’s pretty standard now.  Anti-corrosive dip so it can get into all the nooks and crannies then sprayed primer and top coat(s).

Right, but I don't recall vehicles actually getting primed from my visits at Edison assembly-the E-coat was the actual "primer". 

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8 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

Right, but I don't recall vehicles actually getting primed from my visits at Edison assembly-the E-coat was the actual "primer". 

I guess that’s an option.

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7 hours ago, bluerangerlariat said:

Fuzzy, questions, do the Rangers get a primer bath or is the primer sprayed on?  Has the retooling started in preparation of the Bronco assembly?  Lastly do you by chance know how many Rangers you guys produced in April?

Loving my Ranger, you guys put together a great truck!!!

Thanks, Bob

In this order:

I have no idea, I've never set foot in the paint shop building here

No, Bronco tooling hasn't started yet and nobody I've asked has any idea when it's supposed to start, or they don't want to say. 

As for production I don't know the actual number but I can say that body shop has been doing 260-300 per shift depending on the day. I think Final is consistently at aroun 600 a day but I don't know for sure.

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