HotRunrGuy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, probowler said: I can't believe there wouldn't be demand for a V8 Bronco Keep in mind, we're not talking about an OJ full-size/F-150 based platform, the upcoming Bronco is more of a mid-size vehicle. I just don't see the need for a V-8. Even a base, NA V-6 should be able to do the job. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, probowler said: Why aftermarket though? I can't believe there wouldn't be demand for a V8 Bronco Of course there would but, remember the government is watching with CAFE...... a TTV6 may give similar performance and better official numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Of course there would but, remember the government is watching with CAFE...... a TTV6 may give similar performance and better official numbers. CAFE is probably a bigger hurdle, but there's also having to do the safety certification process on yet another variant. Also, being able to accommodate a 60-degree V6 on the assembly line doesn't automatically mean that it can also accommodate a wider 90-degree V8.* If someone can make the business case for it, it'll get done, but my suspicion is that there aren't enough buyers who will spend enough to justify the expenditure for Ford. *Not that there isn't something enticing about the idea of seeing a 7.3-powered Ranger Rolling off the line... Edited January 5, 2020 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: Not that there isn't something enticing about the idea of seeing a 7.3-powered Ranger Rolling off the line Oh dear god just please stop. They would roll out without hoods 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, SoonerLS said: CAFE is probably a bigger hurdle, but there's also having to do the safety certification process on yet another variant. Also, being able to accommodate a 60-degree V6 on the assembly line doesn't automatically mean that it can also accommodate a wider 90-degree V8.* If someone can make the business case for it, it'll get done, but my suspicion is that there aren't enough buyers who will spend enough to justify the expenditure for Ford. *Not that there isn't something enticing about the idea of seeing a 7.3-powered Ranger Rolling off the line... OK we had experience with this when Ford Aust was looking to drop the I-6 and use the 3.5 V6 Cyclone, you'd think it's an easier fit than the 90 degree coyote, right? Not so, the coyote heads were angled lower which angled the exhaust headers down and away from the inner spring aprons (Falcon had SLAS like Aviator) which had to be massaged to allow the V6 headers to clear. None of that would matter with the 2.7/3.0 Nanos as they're a lot more compact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Keep in mind, we're not talking about an OJ full-size/F-150 based platform, the upcoming Bronco is more of a mid-size vehicle. I just don't see the need for a V-8. Even a base, NA V-6 should be able to do the job. HRG The need for a V8 would only be there if a lot of Folks wanted one in oh say, a Bronco Raptor? but even then, would Ford go new era with something like Aviator's PHEV set up? We'll know in a couple of months... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 FCA seems to be doing pretty well selling V8's in Hellcats... And the Grand Cheroke sports a V8. Hopefully whatever Ford comes out with, be it a SC V6 or V8 will kick Dodges ass. For the top of the line, raptor model? I do think a V8 is the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, probowler said: FCA seems to be doing pretty well selling V8's in Hellcats... And the Grand Cheroke sports a V8. Hopefully whatever Ford comes out with, be it a SC V6 or V8 will kick Dodges ass. For the top of the line, raptor model? I do think a V8 is the way. So do i....i dumped the rupture off my lust list the moment they dumped the v8... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordRaptor10 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Love this truck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 9:58 AM, probowler said: Why aftermarket though? I can't believe there wouldn't be demand for a V8 Bronco Here's a crazy idea for Bronco V8, what if the engineering costs could be split across two other vehicles, things that once seemed impossible then become possible because the potential audience widens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 7:14 PM, HotRunrGuy said: Keep in mind, we're not talking about an OJ full-size/F-150 based platform, the upcoming Bronco is more of a mid-size vehicle. I just don't see the need for a V-8. Even a base, NA V-6 should be able to do the job. The new Bronco will be closer to the old 1990s Bronco then you think: 1995 Bronco: Length:183.6 in Width: 79.1 in Wheelbase:104.7 in Height: 74.4 in 2019 Everest-Expect the Bronco to be roughly similar, with the 2 door being shorter Length 4892mm=192.6 in Width 1860mm=73.2 in Wheelbase 2850mm= 112 inches Height 1837mm= 72.3 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, jpd80 said: Here's a crazy idea for Bronco V8, what if the engineering costs could be split across two other vehicles, things that once seemed impossible then become possible because the potential audience widens. V8 Everest is probably not going to move the sales needle enough to make up the numbers ? It's curious that FCA decided not to make a V8 Wrangler. They also have 2 other vehicles sharing the platform (Gladiator and upcoming Ram Dakota) and the math didn't work either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, bzcat said: V8 Everest is probably not going to move the sales needle enough to make up the numbers ? It's curious that FCA decided not to make a V8 Wrangler. They also have 2 other vehicles sharing the platform (Gladiator and upcoming Ram Dakota) and the math didn't work either. Weight concerns would be my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, bzcat said: V8 Everest is probably not going to move the sales needle enough to make up the numbers ? By themselves the Business case for a Bronco Raptor, Ranger Raptor and Everest Raptor couldn’t be made and that would have been the end of it right there except it wasn’t........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, bzcat said: V8 Everest is probably not going to move the sales needle enough to make up the numbers ? It's curious that FCA decided not to make a V8 Wrangler. They also have 2 other vehicles sharing the platform (Gladiator and upcoming Ram Dakota) and the math didn't work either. There is a turbo inline-six coming in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: By themselves the Business case for a Bronco Raptor, Ranger Raptor and Everest Raptor couldn’t be made and that would have been the end of it right there except it wasn’t........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 sorry, you don't get anymore than that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, jpd80 said: sorry, you don't get anymore than that...... We don't need no stinking V8! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: We don't need no stinking V8! GT500 powered Bronco? That's what I got from that *starts ridiculous rumor to see what happens* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: We don't need no stinking V8! Yeah! We need a V10! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: We don't need no stinking V8! Yeah! We need a V10! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Everyone just assumes that things don't fit because they're not designed to but, what if someone at Ford has already worked out what was needed and it does fit.. Go back to Explorer Sport Trac, it had a 4.6 V8 Mod (similar configuration/size). Edited January 7, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Go back to Explorer Sport Trac, it had a 4.6 V8 Mod So did the regular Explorer as an option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: So did the regular Explorer as an option I mentioned the Sport Track because it is so close to the current Ranger crew cab in length width and track even the chassis look similar to a point.... Edited January 7, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: Go back to Explorer Sport Trac, it had a 4.6 V8 Mod (similar configuration/size). Didn't the Explorer get the SOHC version of the 4.6? I think that's a bit narrower than the DOHC Coyote. Regardless, I hope someone has gotten it sorted and been able to make the case in Dearborn... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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