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S650 Mustang won't utilize a "pure" CD6 architecture

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As reported by https://fordauthority.com/2020/10/ford-has-no-plans-to-use-its-cd6-platform-for-smaller-vehicles-exclusive/

 

This supports what Explorerdude has previously posted, the S650 will utilize the existing DC2 architecture, but with elements from CD6. 

 

From Ford Authority:

Ford Authority has exclusively learned from sources familiar with product plans that there are currently no plans to use the CD6 Platform for smaller vehicles, for example Ford Edge and Lincoln Nautilus replacements. In fact, the only forthcoming model that will utilize the platform is the next-gen, S650 2023 Ford Mustang, but from what we understand, that vehicle will not represent a “pure” implementation of of the CD6 architecture. Instead, the S650 pony will continue utilizing a specific platform with elements borrowed from CD6, as well as other models.

 

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ExplorerDude previously posted: "From what I’ve gathered and seen, yes the S650 will be launching for the 2023MY and it’s expected to use the same platform (D2C) which is now called D5. This was done for substantial cost savings. As it is the program is still pretty expensive.
 

But it’s expected to use many CD6 components. Again, apparently using all the CD6 components would’ve made it too big and too heavy. The S650 is basically a new top hat on the same platform with more CD6 components used"

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1 hour ago, Twin Turbo said:

As reported by https://fordauthority.com/2020/10/ford-has-no-plans-to-use-its-cd6-platform-for-smaller-vehicles-exclusive/

 

This supports what Explorerdude has previously posted, the S650 will utilize the existing DC2 architecture, but with elements from CD6. 

 

From Ford Authority:

Ford Authority has exclusively learned from sources familiar with product plans that there are currently no plans to use the CD6 Platform for smaller vehicles, for example Ford Edge and Lincoln Nautilus replacements. In fact, the only forthcoming model that will utilize the platform is the next-gen, S650 2023 Ford Mustang, but from what we understand, that vehicle will not represent a “pure” implementation of of the CD6 architecture. Instead, the S650 pony will continue utilizing a specific platform with elements borrowed from CD6, as well as other models.

 

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ExplorerDude previously posted: "From what I’ve gathered and seen, yes the S650 will be launching for the 2023MY and it’s expected to use the same platform (D2C) which is now called D5. This was done for substantial cost savings. As it is the program is still pretty expensive.
 

But it’s expected to use many CD6 components. Again, apparently using all the CD6 components would’ve made it too big and too heavy. The S650 is basically a new top hat on the same platform with more CD6 components used"

CD6's modularity is the biggest reason its development was "un paused" in the dark days. 

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54 minutes ago, brucelinc said:

I would love to see a high performance Coyote powered Mustang with AWD.    Yes, I know it would add weight but I don't care.    The current high powered Mustangs are traction limited. 

 

I've thought for years that Ford should have invested in an AWD Mustang. It'll be a lot easier to do once there's a Mustang (not Mach-E) BEV. 

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1 minute ago, ice-capades said:

 

I've thought for years that Ford should have invested in an AWD Mustang. It'll be a lot easier to do once there's a Mustang (not Mach-E) BEV. 

 

There's also the hybrid method - ICE power for the rear wheels, with EV motors on the front wheels.

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18 hours ago, PREMiERdrum said:

CD6's modularity is the biggest reason its development was "un paused" in the dark days. 

Exactly, how long have we been repeating that S650  is now to be an evolved S550 with modular design

to assist with  better location of hybrid battery. Good to see the smoke signals finally reached mainstream

news outlets....

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I still find it hard to believe that Ford will put the 6.8 in a "regular" Mustang......i.e S650 when it comes out. In a world where automotive manufacturers are downsizing engines and moving to hybrids or EVs, will Ford really put an old pushrod V8 in the Mustang we know and love? In fact, if it's an iron block pushrod V8, I honestly can't see the advantage over the Coyote. OK, it'll have better torque, but power levels will be similar, and I'd imagine fuel economy and emissions will be nowhere near as good as the Coyote. Not mention the mess it'll make of the handling with a big heavy engine up front.

 

I can see them putting this is something truck based (perhaps even using the Mustang name......as the rumors state there will be a "family" of Mustangs)......but I just have a hard time seeing this in S650.

 

And, yes, I'm aware Dias stated the 6.8 will be "used in derivatives of Mustang and F150"......but.......

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29 minutes ago, Twin Turbo said:

I still find it hard to believe that Ford will put the 6.8 in a "regular" Mustang......i.e S650 when it comes out. In a world where automotive manufacturers are downsizing engines and moving to hybrids or EVs, will Ford really put an old pushrod V8 in the Mustang we know and love? In fact, if it's an iron block pushrod V8, I honestly can't see the advantage over the Coyote. OK, it'll have better torque, but power levels will be similar, and I'd imagine fuel economy and emissions will be nowhere near as good as the Coyote. Not mention the mess it'll make of the handling with a big heavy engine up front.

 

I can see them putting this is something truck based (perhaps even using the Mustang name......as the rumors state there will be a "family" of Mustangs)......but I just have a hard time seeing this in S650.

 

And, yes, I'm aware Dias stated the 6.8 will be "used in derivatives of Mustang and F150"......but.......


The 7.3 is in physically smaller then a DOHC modular motor and they weigh about roughly the same. 
 

I’d expect it just be used as a range topper Mustang. But the real question is the “regular” V8 going away on the lesser Mustangs? 

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38 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

The 7.3 is in physically smaller then a DOHC modular motor and they weigh about roughly the same. 


I thought it was taller? Haven't retrofits involved lowering the mounting points on the frame? 

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2 hours ago, silvrsvt said:


The 7.3 is in physically smaller then a DOHC modular motor and they weigh about roughly the same. 
 

I’d expect it just be used as a range topper Mustang. But the real question is the “regular” V8 going away on the lesser Mustangs? 

According to Evan Smith, I believe the 7.3 weighs about 130 pounds more than a 5.0 Coyote. 

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