silvrsvt Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-eliminate-3800-engineering-administration-jobs-europe-2023-02-14/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Official Ford press release. Ford Takes Next Steps to Transform European Business | Ford of Europe | Ford Media Center Highlights. Ford Europe is preparing its organization and product line-up to compete and win in a highly competitive region that is facing significant economic and geo-political headwinds The company is taking action to restructure its business in Europe, creating a leaner, more competitive cost structure, including the elimination of 3,800 jobs over the next three years Plans will enable a future for Ford in Europe defined by a new line-up of iconic vehicles inspired by Ford’s American heritage and differentiated through software and services Strategy to offer an all-electric fleet in Europe by 2035 is unchanged. Production of Ford’s first European-built electric passenger vehicle is set to start later this year Summary of affected jobs across Europe: Product Development Administrative Functions Total Germany 1700 600 2300 UK 1000 300 1300 Rest of Europe 100 100 200 Total 2800 1000 3800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Well that confirms where most of the excess engineers were. I guess you don’t really need 6 different versions of a 2.0L diesel engine. A problem GM never had. That is one big advantage with BEVs - same powertrain everywhere. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 hours ago, akirby said: Well that confirms where most of the excess engineers were. I guess you don’t really need 6 different versions of a 2.0L diesel engine. A problem GM never had. That is one big advantage with BEVs - same powertrain everywhere. I'm almost positive Ford will find a way to over-complicate it. There are several versions and variations of almost everything they've done from at least the 70s on (I don't mess with much older than that so I don't know), down to half year changes in things as simple as a wiring harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Captainp4 said: I'm almost positive Ford will find a way to over-complicate it. There are several versions and variations of almost everything they've done from at least the 70s on (I don't mess with much older than that so I don't know), down to half year changes in things as simple as a wiring harness. That’s because the CEO allowed Europe to do their own thing. But given their never ending financial issues I think Farley has said enough is enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, akirby said: That’s because the CEO allowed Europe to do their own thing. But given their never ending financial issues I think Farley has said enough is enough. Should have happened under Mulally and One Ford 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Should have happened under Mulally and One Ford Yep. He did a lot to improve the situation but didn’t go nearly far enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, akirby said: Yep. He did a lot to improve the situation but didn’t go nearly far enough. Just like every CEO before and since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 The confusing part of One Ford was that they didn’t get the right mix of regionalisation, Europe stayed in those MPV/Minivans too long instead of embracing utilities and crossovers. Clinging to Fiesta and Focus sales numbers because they were popular in Ford’s top four Euro markets - UK, Germany, France and Italy. Profitability was definitely a secondary consideration. Not building cars in Cologne or Saarlouis = losing the German buyers, BEVs from Cologne = winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 1:38 PM, akirby said: Well that confirms where most of the excess engineers were. I guess you don’t really need 6 different versions of a 2.0L diesel engine. A problem GM never had. That is one big advantage with BEVs - same powertrain everywhere. Well, Ford has already unnecessarily complicated it then. The Mach e uses a smaller front motor than rear. The GT uses the same rear motor in the front. The e Transit also uses the same rear motor, which is made by LG. Lightning might use the same rear motor also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 hours ago, slemke said: Well, Ford has already unnecessarily complicated it then. The Mach e uses a smaller front motor than rear. The GT uses the same rear motor in the front. The e Transit also uses the same rear motor, which is made by LG. Lightning might use the same rear motor also. That doesn’t take a team of engineers though. Motors are virtually interchangeable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipnzap Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Sorry, wrong thread. Edited February 16, 2023 by zipnzap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 hours ago, akirby said: That doesn’t take a team of engineers though. Motors are virtually interchangeable. GM will only use 3 electric motor designs for their lineup of Ultium EVs: GM Reveals Three New Motors That Will Power Its Future EVs (insideevs.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 16 hours ago, akirby said: That doesn’t take a team of engineers though. Motors are virtually interchangeable. Particularly when they are outsourced. LGE makes the motors for the Mach e and transit. Not sure about the lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) On 2/17/2023 at 12:25 AM, slemke said: Particularly when they are outsourced. LGE makes the motors for the Mach e and transit. Not sure about the lighting. I thought I read that Ford designed the Lightning motor and builds it in-house. Edited February 18, 2023 by CurtisH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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