Surgen Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Ford is talking about using the T6 as a global platform and that is completely different to the Thai Ranger.Ford AUS is just doing the engineering, not building them. I haven't heard Ford talk about T6 being a global platform (i.e. available in all major markets). If this was coming to the US, it probably wouldn't be being designed in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) I haven't heard Ford talk about T6 being a global platform (i.e. available in all major markets). If this was coming to the US, it probably wouldn't be being designed in Australia. Global light commercial vehicle architecture Ford Australia will have lead design and engineering responsibility for a new vehicle architecture that is targeted to underpin a range of light commercial vehicles in more than 80 countries worldwide. Engineered for both right- and left-hand drive and manufactured in multiple locations, the first derivative is most likely to be a pick-up truck, although the architecture has the capability for a variety of multiple configurations and body styles. "We are at the very beginning of this exciting new project. Significant engineering and design work over a number of years is still required before formal program approval will be granted by Ford. It is anticipated that once this occurs, the architecture derivatives are expected to result in more than 400,000 sales annually," said Ford Australia Vice President of Product Development, Mr Trevor Worthington. This quote is from the Ford Website:FORD AUSTRALIA ANNOUNCES MAJOR NEW PROJECTS This is only at "project" stage so, significant engineering and design work over a number of years is still required before formal program approval will be granted by Ford. I would say a range of light commercial vehicles in more than 80 countries worldwide with expected sales of over 400,000 per year makes it a potential "Global Platform", chances are good that the USA would be one of the 80 countries. Ford and GM North American head offices are now entrusting their Aussie divisions with key engineering projects because they can do it quicker than the Americans (easier than teaching the elephant to tap dance). Edited November 23, 2006 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolita Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 My intel is that the T6 program will commence production in early 2010 for Thailand and roll out gradually during the CY for other markets currently sourced out of Thailand. This program was under way and approved before Mullay came in..he probably was OK with it. My guess is that this product will be built in Thailand for ASEAN markets and in Argentina for Latin America (Mexico South). Current issues that include rear seat leg room and modern gas engines will be probably be addressed. I assume that some models will conitnue to be built from CKD kits in other plant - such as South Africa and Vietnam This is what Toyota currently does with its IMV HiLux/Fortuner products (both built primarily in Thailand and Argentina) My doubt is if this platform will make it to the US and if the T6 program includes an SUV to replace the Everest. We'll know in three years time..I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skilled2go Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 (edited) My intel is that the T6 program will commence production in early 2010 for Thailand and roll out gradually during the CY for other markets currently sourced out of Thailand. This program was under way and approved before Mullay came in..he probably was OK with it. My guess is that this product will be built in Thailand for ASEAN markets and in Argentina for Latin America (Mexico South). Current issues that include rear seat leg room and modern gas engines will be probably be addressed. I assume that some models will conitnue to be built from CKD kits in other plant - such as South Africa and Vietnam This is what Toyota currently does with its IMV HiLux/Fortuner products (both built primarily in Thailand and Argentina) My doubt is if this platform will make it to the US and if the T6 program includes an SUV to replace the Everest. We'll know in three years time..I guess! How about the new 3.5L V6 or a 4 cyl. diesel for the US Ranger. :happy feet: With a six speed automatic transmission. Edited November 23, 2006 by skilled2go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 As Explorer/Sport Trak, and Mountainer sales continue to shrink you are less likely to see an F-100 built off that chassis. What is more likely is a Ridgeline type F-100 built off the Freestyle. No decision has been made about bringing the World Ranger to NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 (edited) My intel is that the T6 program will commence production in early 2010 for Thailand and roll out gradually during the CY for other markets currently sourced out of Thailand. This program was under way and approved before Mullay came in..he probably was OK with it. My guess is that this product will be built in Thailand for ASEAN markets and in Argentina for Latin America (Mexico South). Current issues that include rear seat leg room and modern gas engines will be probably be addressed. I assume that some models will conitnue to be built from CKD kits in other plant - such as South Africa and Vietnam This is what Toyota currently does with its IMV HiLux/Fortuner products (both built primarily in Thailand and Argentina) My doubt is if this platform will make it to the US and if the T6 program includes an SUV to replace the Everest. We'll know in three years time..I guess! So where does that leave the NA Ranger? Is there anything on the horizon as a replacement? Edited November 23, 2006 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surgen Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 No decision has been made about bringing the World Ranger to NA. A decision would have to be made soon. Otherwise it would likely not be designed to be easily federalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Another segment that Ford is just giving away to the competition. What kind of business strategy is that? It's insane, there's no more question that they are intentionally screwing the company, who is behind this? Why would they do such a thing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Another segment that Ford is just giving away to the competition. What kind of business strategy is that? It's insane, there's no more question that they are intentionally screwing the company, who is behind this? Why would they do such a thing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Another segment that Ford is just giving away to the competition. What kind of business strategy is that? It's insane, there's no more question that they are intentionally screwing the company, who is behind this? Why would they do such a thing??? http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/banghead.gif Ford has given up many segments and made many poor decisions over 100 years. Luckily, the good decisions have outweighed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 Given that Ford just survived their make over NAD the Global melt down, a lot of harsh choices had to be made. The passing of Ranger was only done because it had declined to low cost transport with the tray in back. There's a real opportunity for Rnager to reconnect with buyers and slip into a new price bracket below the higher ATPs of F150. A lot of changes have happened, so maybe now things that were the once ruled out are now becoming a lot more likely. It all depends on how Ford now sees itself and whether it's prepared to go after certain customers and make them part of the Ford bueyr pool again, all it takes is the right products at the right prices... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Given that Ford just survived their make over NAD the Global melt down, a lot of harsh choices had to be made. The passing of Ranger was only done because it had declined to low cost transport with the tray in back. True. Many hard decisions were made to keep the company afloat. Personally, I'd rather Ford took the route they did otherwise it might have been Ford bought by Fiat and run into the ground by Sergio. But as you stated, things are different now. Both at a company level and a market level. I would love to see a smaller truck, RWD and BOF. But we will see if it happens. Edited September 2, 2015 by J-150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) True. Many hard decisions were made to keep the company afloat. Personally, I'd rather Ford took the route they did otherwise it might have been Ford bought by Fiat and run into the ground by Sergio. But as you stated, things are different now. Both at a company level and a market level. I would love to see a smaller truck, RWD and BOF. But we will see if it happens. Let's hope that Ford under Fields is about seeking out those valuable niches where possible, become that "can do" company that makes certain things happen.... Sorry, having connectivity issues. Edited September 2, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Even with these low fuel prices, the British are still paying just under $7/gal. Correct me if Im wrong but that around 2.5 to 3 times what you're paying in the US Those are the kind of pricing pressures needed to push buyers into diesel in lighter vehicles. In Australia, diesel in cars is still pretty rare and we're paying up around $5/gal and while that's i not a direct comparison, you can see that there's more to the switch than people liking diesels. Edited September 2, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think Fields is serious about going after the lower volume but high profit niches. 12 Ford Performance models within the next few years. They've never had more than 3 or 4 at a time. The GT and Mustang GT350 race programs. Bronco. Ranger. New Explorer/Aviator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-bird Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 My wife will never drive anything other than an SUV. AS a niche I wonder if Ford would ever consider offering a kind of Mustangish SUV. This to satisfy the husbands lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 My wife will never drive anything other than an SUV. AS a niche I wonder if Ford would ever consider offering a kind of Mustangish SUV. This to satisfy the husbands lol. Is about as close as you'll get to a Mustang SUV/CUV...with a tune they move pretty quick....I know SHO's can do sub 13 second 1/4 miles with just a tune weighing in at over 4300 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I wonder if today's 16-25 y/o women will reject SUV's when they are prime new car buying age? Fashions change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 My daughter is 20 and drives a Focus hatchback. She wants an Escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I wonder if today's 16-25 y/o women will reject SUV's when they are prime new car buying age? Fashions change. Probably so, just as the current generation rejected the once popular minivan in favor of the SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I wonder if today's 16-25 y/o women will reject SUV's when they are prime new car buying age? Fashions change. If it isn't offered with a stick, chances are very high that I'm rejecting it I just turned 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) If it isn't offered with a stick, chances are very high that I'm rejecting it I just turned 26 In Ford's showroom, that limits you to three cars, Fiesta, Focus and Mustang. as everything else is auto only. Recently drove T6 Ranger with 2.2 diesel and 6-speed manual, same box as in Mustang and manual Transits works well, I'm sure you would like the reasonably short throw shift, it seemed to have nice feel to it. so let's hope Ford brings Ranger/Everest and Broncos with manual trans and high low transfer cases. Edited September 4, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 In Ford's showroom, that limits you to three cars, Fiesta, Focus and Mustang. as everything else is auto only. Yeah, I'm painfully aware of that. That's why my next car is going to be a Focus ST. I'm sure the 1.0EB is fine and all, but I want a 6 speed and not the smallest engine ford makes. Neither the Fiesta nor Mustang is practical for me at this point, and I swore off ever getting a 2 door as a daily driver ever again after my current Focus and the wife's G5 (a car that I hate with the burning passion of a thousand suns) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 Yeah, I'm painfully aware of that. That's why my next car is going to be a Focus ST. I'm sure the 1.0EB is fine and all, but I want a 6 speed and not the smallest engine ford makes. Neither the Fiesta nor Mustang is practical for me at this point, and I swore off ever getting a 2 door as a daily driver ever again after my current Focus and the wife's G5 (a car that I hate with the burning passion of a thousand suns) ROW Focus now comes with 1,5 EB and either 6-speed manual of 6F auto, I'm wondering if Ford NA is changing shortly too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 and the wife's G5 Everyone knows that a G6 is better....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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