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Mach E's plant is the big question mark......they'll have to do something with it.  Since it's already set up for EV production, it makes some sense to keep it as an EV plant.  However, with Ford shifting to a completely different construction method for CE1, you'd be gutting the factory anyway to change to that, leaving the door open for a switch back to ICE (another C2 plant?)   Ford's back and forth product decisions just seems like massive wastes and shuffling deck chairs around on the Titanic (not implying Ford is going under, just that the plant usage is nuts).

I don't think anyone is "dismissing" the losses.  Just looking at it realistically.   1) naturally big upfront losses will happen when you're setting up future product without the future product on sale to start earning back money 2) all manufacturers jumped out over their skis due to pending gov't regulations that have been walked back, so all companies are losing big on EV investments.   Doesn't mean it doesn't suck for the huge losses across the industry...

why'd we dredge up a 2 year old topic?

It’s amazing to me how so many dismiss losses in the billions and billions as no big deal. 

Such lean design, it's almost like it's not even there!

Interesting development.  Well, guess it answers where they'll get more funding from.      I've seen a few reviews of the R2, and my brother actually got to sit in one last week.  It looks like a good product, I hope it does well.

I don’t think there will be enough EV demand to keep Louisville at capacity, much less adding another CE1 plant. 

We'll see if Rivian's tech is any better than Waymos.....

Meanwhile......   https://landline.media/waymo-driverless-vehicle-has-close-call-with-train/