It is out of warranty. Period.
Yes, it sucks but sometimes that is how it goes....I too am a loyal Ford customer to the point where FoMoCo stock is in my portfolio. But, lets look at some facts, You created your account here on Dec 21st presumably to see if you can find some sort of assistance and after finding none, you throw the "....but this will make me rethink next vehicle purchase." barb out there almost as a threat that if you cannot get this fixed under warranty you will never buy another Ford product ever again.
I don't really care what you buy since here in America, we can buy as we please but this is a Ford centric forum and sometimes I bristle at comments like the one you made. Sorry if it upset you. Your Lincoln Navigator BL is a sweet ride and a 2K repair, while a nuisance for sure, is not really a good reason to throw in the towel on the entire company. My 2023 Explorer has had a few repairs under warranty that make me think I may have gotten a "Friday Afternoon" special but I am considering replacing it with another Ford product....I have had dozens of Fords over the years and I will continue to enjoy the offerings of the Blue Oval and also come here to discuss my favorite car company.
Oh, sometimes I get upset and will go take a Mazda CX-50 hybrid or Toyota Crown out for a test drive, but it just feels "wrong" to me when I slide in behind the wheel of those fine brands. But when I sit in a Bronco Sport or a Lincoln Corsair hybrid, my mind is more at ease. Crazy? Sure...but I have been called worse. I seriously hope you find some sort of redress of your repair woes because it disappoints me too. Good luck with your Navigator.
Sorry that it's such a limited angle, doesn't show much, but I'm curious. This was in a recent Ford of Australia video, something in a design studio. To my eyes, it looks like a rear end of something, we mostly see the roofline and the hips/shoulder line.
It doesn't appear to have a rear window, and there looks to be some sort of sensor or other bulbous shape in the center roof. I know some people on this site have actually seen inside of Ford's design studios, so I'm curious if they'll be like "That looks like *insert this upcoming product*.
Can't tell much, but what we can see, it looks quite sleek.
Correct, a lot of market changes happened at the same time….more Utes, less cars.
Ford wishing it had moved production to Mexico much quickly like GM did
basically ran out of time when 45 came to power and raised concerns about
plans to move Lincoln Corsair (?) production to Mexico. I think Ford also wanted
to show Trump that it was cancelling plans to move more production to Mexico
making Ford less of a target…oddly, GM flew under that radar on that point.
I think it started with Fields expecting a recession and pulling back factory builds. I think Farley was obsessed with Tesla and pending EV legislation and panicked trying to move too fast and burned too many bridges in the process.
There's a perception issue at Ford, it sees commodity products as price constrained by competition
yet cannot attract enough buyers to premium priced vehicles, especially Europe where Vignale
failed, it wants Ford to be seen as a more premium brand but buyers aren’t following that thinking,
perhaps the Lincoln brand would make a better sales channel for that sort of thing?
Anyways, everything changes with 2025 vehicle emission regs so maybe that window of opportunity is now gone.
Good summation of past issues.
What do you think was the root cause of so many bad choices?
Ford clearly wanted to copy GM by moving more products to Mexico but I suspect
that it didn’t realise the wider global export opportunities for the right products.
Europe is struggling making enough product for its own market let alone supply
ROW markets, could be a good opportunity for Mexico as export Center…
Not trying to make excuses for Ford here but it seems like it is prone to a lot of bad choices,
is there something I’m not seeing in their decision making process? Hackett seemed to be looking for easy solutions to BEVs but never understood the importance of securing
adequate battery supply (neither did Fields or Mulally or Bill Ford before him)
I know I’ve said that BOC looks like a white elephant today but maybe I’m completely wrong,
maybe Ford is actually too many years in front of what’s needed to day but perfectly positioned
for a future when everyone else is trying to scramble because they’re too late?
With regards to Europe, I’m sure that CE1 will replace the VW based MEBs that now look like place holders, it would be in Ford’s best interest to make this happen in the next five years or earlier if possible.
True but don’t forget there were very real threats of legislation effectively killing all ICE sales starting with Europe plus Tesla’s domination here.
What can and should be held against Ford is the failed Rivian and VW deals, the failed 3 row EVs and Oakville cluster F***, failure to add more hybrids and overcommitting to BOC. Also killing the flat rock upgrade and the 3rd Mexico plant.
Margins are not guaranteed in a free market. higher margins aren't always a sign of health or efficiency; simply ignoring an inefficient product development system by only building high ASP vehicles isn't a sign of strength
Ford cannot build affordable cars profitably, while the competition can.
This is an excerpt from an article from earlier this year.
Fallout From Chip Shortage Expected To Persist For Years
While that is the common wisdom, it wasn’t long ago that Ford committed up to $50 billion on its electric future. Ford actually ripped $11 billion away from ICE programs to help fund that future.
Nothing is ever that clear, that perfect to see and contingencies can often flow as plans
change with what buyers and markets are doing. Ford will find the better mix that suits
the present but also permits next Gen BEVs to become reality.