Pics of the upcoming Boss in Hot Rod Magazine

[mercury]

In this months Hot Rod in a small blurb there are pics of the upcoming Boss motor,its not much but it shows the heads,block & cam covers.

To me it looks more like the old 1.6/1.9 Escort head scaled up(cam under the rockers)than a CORA design and the engine as a whole looks taller but narrower than the MODS.

Sorry no scanner atm....didnt even buy the mag but thought I'd pass it along.

[rmc523]

In this months Hot Rod in a small blurb there are pics of the upcoming Boss motor,its not much but it shows the heads,block & cam covers.

To me it looks more like the old 1.6/1.9 Escort head scaled up(cam under the rockers)than a CORA design and the engine as a whole looks taller but narrower than the MODS.

Sorry no scanner atm....didnt even buy the mag but thought I'd pass it along.

 

Interesting, thanks for the info.

[Ford-150]

In this months Hot Rod in a small blurb there are pics of the upcoming Boss motor,its not much but it shows the heads,block & cam covers.

To me it looks more like the old 1.6/1.9 Escort head scaled up(cam under the rockers)than a CORA design and the engine as a whole looks taller but narrower than the MODS.

Sorry no scanner atm....didnt even buy the mag but thought I'd pass it along.

unless it was just the angle at which you view it, i would believe that would answer why the F-150 has a taller hood

 

also looking at spy shots of the Mustang mules, i noticed that the hood is slightly taller than the current GT unless it was a special edition....which i doubt

 

thanks for the info

[rmc523]

unless it was just the angle at which you view it, i would believe that would answer why the F-150 has a taller hood

 

also looking at spy shots of the Mustang mules, i noticed that the hood is slightly taller than the current GT unless it was a special edition....which i doubt

 

thanks for the info

 

IIRC, in one of the F-150 press releases, it mentioned a larger PowerDome hood, which would be for larger engines, I'd assume.

Edited January 13, 2008 by rmc523

[Blue II]

3.5 hair blowers are tall as well. Tight fit height wise in the Mustang.

[theoldwizard]

3.5 hair blowers are tall as well. Tight fit height wise in the Mustang.

Is that the single or twin turbo version ?

 

Packaging of the TwinForce on the MKS was a real problem also !

[Marauder2299of7839]

the pictures in HR do look taller than current mods. wider bore spacing allowing for bigger than 7 liters. first sign of hope I've seen from ford in a while. I like the Y-block design, and the 8-bolt crank mounting. the all too brief story mentions the 09 F-series and 2010 mustang as planned apps.

[ray101988]

the pictures in HR do look taller than current mods. wider bore spacing allowing for bigger than 7 liters. first sign of hope I've seen from ford in a while. I like the Y-block design, and the 8-bolt crank mounting. the all too brief story mentions the 09 F-series and 2010 mustang as planned apps.

 

Its interesting that 7 liters is mentioned seeing as Ford as an engine called the "777". 7 liters, 700hp, and 700 lbs/tq. Its a good sign that they mention the F-series.

[Ford-150]

Its interesting that 7 liters is mentioned seeing as Ford as an engine called the "777". 7 liters, 700hp, and 700 lbs/tq. Its a good sign that they mention the F-series.

is the 777 n/a?

[Edstock]

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/produ...eads4v228cc.php

 

Apparently, this outfit makes 4-valve Cleveland cylinder heads. Go figure. Think of it as the ultimate push-rod BOSS.

[ray101988]

is the 777 n/a?

 

I heard that info through Igor. Hes usually pretty accurate. I think it was annouced but not announced as being put into anything. I heard from someone that they overheard someone from Ford saying that if Chevy put their 7.0L in the camaro that Ford was dropping theirs in the mustang.

 

Ive also heard from many places that the 6.2L is expandable to a 7.0L. Interesting eh?

7.0L F150 please...

lol

[suv_guy_19]

I heard that info through Igor. Hes usually pretty accurate. I think it was annouced but not announced as being put into anything. I heard from someone that they overheard someone from Ford saying that if Chevy put their 7.0L in the camaro that Ford was dropping theirs in the mustang.

 

Ive also heard from many places that the 6.2L is expandable to a 7.0L. Interesting eh?

7.0L F150 please...

lol

 

I think Blue II said something about it too...and he is also very accurate.

[Ford-150]

are there any pics of it?

[Blueblood]

I'm gonna go look for it at the store, couldn't find Hot Rod at Ralph's the other night..

[wildosvt]

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/produ...eads4v228cc.php

 

Apparently, this outfit makes 4-valve Cleveland cylinder heads. Go figure. Think of it as the ultimate push-rod BOSS.

 

 

Those are 4 venturri heads not 4 valve.

[Stray Kat]

The blurb states that the Hurricane has a 4.5" bore center. Bores diameters of 4.25" and more are entirely possible. For the record the famous 427 Fords were 4.23" bore and the 427, 454 chevies were 4.25" bore.

 

The engine looks like a Modular block, you know Y-block, dry valley, same bell housing flange etc. I think they said CGI material. The heads are aluminium SOHC's. The valves are lined across the bores but not directly opposed, much like the old 2.0 2.3 four bangers. Beehive springs, but no rocker arms in the pics. Can't tell exactly what sytem they will use. Probably similar to the 3- valve Modular's configuration.

 

O.K. so now we have what we need. Big unshrouded bores for better breathing. A greater bore to stroke ratio that will allow lower decks for the displacement size. I'm glad to see Ford sticking with this basic design. We will soon see all the V8 OHC knowledge payoff to potential. I think this engine will send the competition back to the drawing boards. The American OHC V8 finally have everything with no compromise. My friends this is going to be like being able to a 427 SOHC with vast refinement in a production vehicle.

[GreyPony]

Its interesting that 7 liters is mentioned seeing as Ford as an engine called the "777". 7 liters, 700hp, and 700 lbs/tq. Its a good sign that they mention the F-series.

 

 

Maybe the name has something to do with Mulally's past? :P

[fbmphil]

I *think* the 777 was a Boss variant being worked over by Roush. I doubt we'll ever see it in a production vehicle.

[Blue II]

Maybe the name has something to do with Mulally's past? :P

 

7 liter, 700 HP@ 7000 rpm. Runs 8.85 in the 1/4 naturally aspirated on E-85.

[Blue II]

The blurb states that the Hurricane has a 4.5" bore center. Bores diameters of 4.25" and more are entirely possible. For the record the famous 427 Fords were 4.23" bore and the 427, 454 chevies were 4.25" bore.

 

The engine looks like a Modular block, you know Y-block, dry valley, same bell housing flange etc. I think they said CGI material. The heads are aluminium SOHC's. The valves are lined across the bores but not directly opposed, much like the old 2.0 2.3 four bangers. Beehive springs, but no rocker arms in the pics. Can't tell exactly what sytem they will use. Probably similar to the 3- valve Modular's configuration.

 

O.K. so now we have what we need. Big unshrouded bores for better breathing. A greater bore to stroke ratio that will allow lower decks for the displacement size. I'm glad to see Ford sticking with this basic design. We will soon see all the V8 OHC knowledge payoff to potential. I think this engine will send the competition back to the drawing boards. The American OHC V8 finally have everything with no compromise. My friends this is going to be like being able to a 427 SOHC with vast refinement in a production vehicle.

 

No CGI, 9.2 deck. Do a search, there is a bunch that I posted last year.

[Deanh]

Its interesting that 7 liters is mentioned seeing as Ford as an engine called the "777". 7 liters, 700hp, and 700 lbs/tq. Its a good sign that they mention the F-series.

whoa....but one word jumps to mind with THOSE specs....OVERKILL. Is that type of HP, and consequent gas consumption actually NECESSARY?

[wildosvt]

Is this in the Feb 08 edition? I thumbed thru it today while at the grocery store and only seen GM's diesel.

[Marauder2299of7839]

March 08 "cratepower" headline on cover.

 

 

whoa....but one word jumps to mind with THOSE specs....OVERKILL. Is that type of HP, and consequent gas consumption actually NECESSARY?

 

having a vehicle isn't necessary, but desirable.

 

so it is desirable to have decent power. 700 hp is decent. I prefer it at lower RPMs, but I'd tolerate it...

[timmm55]

Not too sure about the source!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Boss_engine

 

The Boss engine is a forthcoming all new large-displacement V8 engine project at Ford Motor Company. The engine project was reportedly canceled in 2005 as the company focused on its existing Modular V8 and V10, but was reportedly revived in early 2006 by Mark Fields. [1] The large engine will compete with DaimlerChrysler's 6.1 L and larger Hemi and General Motors' 6.2 L Vortec engines. The Boss V8 will be built at Cleveland Engine in Cleveland, Ohio and the first application will be Ford's new 2009 (likely a late availability 2009 or 2010 model year option) F-Series pickup trucks produced at Dearborn Truck.

 

The Boss engine will reportedly displace 6.2 L (6207 cc/379 in³) and produce roughly 425 hp (317 kW) and 425 ft·lbf (576 N·m) upon introduction. The engine architecture will offer the ability to exceed 7.0 L in future applications. Insider reports indicate the Boss will retain several design similarities with the Modular V8 such as deep skirt block with cross bolted main caps, crankshaft driven gerotor oil pump, and overhead camshaft valve train arrangement. The Boss' single most significant departure from the Modular V8 will be seen in the significantly wider 4.53 in (115 mm) bore centerline (The Modular V8 is 3.94 in (100 mm) by comparison). The 6.2 L will reportedly employ a 4.015 in (102 mm) bore diameter and a 3.74 in (95 mm) stroke to achieve it's 6.2 L of displacement. The initial versions of the Boss will have single overhead camshafts, two valves per cylinder, two spark plugs per cylinder and employ a form of cylinder deactivation for increased fuel economy. Initial information on valve sizes of the 6.2 L puts the intake valve at 2.10 in and the exhaust valve at 1.65 in. [2] Later high-performance versions will be equipped with DOHC 4-valve heads and gasoline direct injection (GDI). A "TwinForce" 6.2 L DOHC 4-valve, twin-turbo, GDI version of the Boss is currently being developed and has reportedly produced over 650 ft·lbf (881 N·m) in initial testing.

 

Roush Racing is currently field testing an experimental, large displacement version of the Boss engine code named "777", which stands for 7.0 L, 700 hp @ 7,000 rpm, at National Mustang Racers Association (NMRA) events around the United States. The 777 Boss is naturally aspirated and runs on E85 biofuel.

 

The engine was initially called the "Hurricane", but this was changed in mid 2006 to the storied Boss name in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. [3]

 

 

Here's a looooong thread on the Mustang Source

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=72547

[Marauder2299of7839]

A "TwinForce" 6.2 L DOHC 4-valve, twin-turbo, GDI version of the Boss is currently being developed and has reportedly produced over 650 ft·lbf (881 N·m) in initial testing.

 

now thats what I'm talking about!

 

although just the 4 valve direct injection would make me happy