MY93SHO Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 http://jalopnik.com/#!5758322/the-ad-ford-could-run-in-reply-to-chyslers-detroit+gasm Ford should run this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I first saw it and thought, it was real. After reading the article I laughed. It's a great ad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I liked it too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I know Richard Jenson is going to come marching in and tell us it's a stupid and/or bad idea to play the commercial (I'm just giving you chit Richard) :blah: , but as a Ford fan, a taxpayer, and an American I would LOVE to see them air this thing and tell the other guys to shove it (or obviously something similar, I realize FoMoCo didn't produce this one). Yeah, you don't attack the guys that are behind you for the most part, but something like this might deserve an exception, or maybe something a little more subtle - some historic footage like that, then show the new cars, say FoMoCo we've been in consistent business around the world since 1903. I don't know, it's late and I'm rambling.. throw some thoughts out for some more subtle replies to Chrysler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 That's freakin awesome. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_sallad Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 needs a Detroit soundtrack rather than LL Cool J.... Eminem, Kid Rock, J Dilla, White Stripes, anything Motown, George Clinton.... lots to choose from! Too bad Chrysler already nabbed the one Eminem song i like. But ya i agree, something like this with a few more shots of current products would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 And they should show the Ford HQ. , not GM's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Cute. I was about to link it until I saw this thread. Good song choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 And they should show the Ford HQ. , not GM's. Ren Cen is the symbol of Detroit..also it was built by Henry jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I did not know that, interesting fact. That been said, the choice of GMHQ makes sense in this case. While GM and Chrysler are going on and on, Ford's still kicking butt. 'nuff said. If you have to use LL Cool J just for the first line, it's more then enough to get the point across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 If I were Farley, I wouldn't run this one on TV but encourage people to make more "We Never Left" YouTube videos. Turn it into a contest, maybe, have a voting site, etc. Then do a commercial for the contest, telling people to get on the site and join in. THAT is New Media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I think the problem with doing that, officially, is that Ford would assume some liability for copyright material used in the video---- I'm working on something..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I do not look at this as a Ford vs GM/Chrysler situation. I look at it as a domestic vs foreign automaker issue. Chances are if GM and Chrysler were liquidated, Ford would have fallen into bankruptcy too as a result of suppliers failing (remember Ford's stock was at $.90 a share at this point). At the same time, if the US had not allowed for Japan and Korea's unfair training practices for decades on end, there is a good chance that GM and Chrysler would not have had to seek bankruptcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I think it's just a perception thing. Chrysler and GM have been way behind Ford because of the bailouts and Bankruptcy, but the millions they're pouring into renovating that image will pay off at some point. Ford pumping themselves up a bit can't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 there is a good chance that GM and Chrysler would not have had to seek bankruptcy. The US gov't wasn't keeping them from making good product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F250 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I do not look at this as a Ford vs GM/Chrysler situation. I look at it as a domestic vs foreign automaker issue. Chances are if GM and Chrysler were liquidated, Ford would have fallen into bankruptcy too as a result of suppliers failing (remember Ford's stock was at $.90 a share at this point). At the same time, if the US had not allowed for Japan and Korea's unfair training practices for decades on end, there is a good chance that GM and Chrysler would not have had to seek bankruptcy. Exactly. I couldnt agree more. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F250 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The US gov't wasn't keeping them from making good product. Do you own one? I do. 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0L 4x4 211,000 miles All original powertrain, drives like new body is still tight no squeeks or rattles. Damn fine vehicle. I'd recomend it over any over-rated foreign POS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Do you own one? I do. 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0L 4x4 211,000 miles All original powertrain, drives like new body is still tight no squeeks or rattles. Damn fine vehicle. I'd recomend it over any over-rated foreign POS. Your option means nothing in the grand scheme of thing....having F250 Poster on BON saying its a great car isn't going to change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Ren Cen is the symbol of Detroit..also it was built by Henry jr. Henry SR. was one of the founders of Cadillac, but we don't want that in a Ford video either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0L 4x4 And for every one of them, there were five or six pieces of junk. GM, Chrysler, and Ford all screwed up royal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Henry SR. was one of the founders of Cadillac, but we don't want that in a Ford video either. Not quite. When Henry was thrown out of the Henry Ford Company by the investors in 1903, they renamed the company Cadillac in honor of the founder of Detroit and hired Henry Leland to run it. Henry Sr. moved on to found the Ford Motor Company. In 1922 Ford bought Lincoln, founded by Leland after he left Cadillac, and kicked Leland to the curb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Here is a great story that ran on This American Life about the NUMMI plant in Fremont, California. It was one of the worst plants when GM ran it alone. When GM/Toyota teamed up to create NUMMI the plant became GM's highest quality/lowest cost plant and built cars on par with Toyotas built in Japan. This was back in 1984, when the Japanese were kicking GM's ass on quality, eroding market share. In spite of the NUMMI success, the lessons and practices never migrated to the rest of GM's plants. You can't blame the union as NUMMI was a UAW plant. Had GM built cars of the quality of the NUMMI cars across to board in the mid-to-late 1980s they would have most likely maintained more of their market share, saved billions in costs and avoided bankruptcy. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/403/nummi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Finished the video. It's the history of Ford in about a minute. Give or take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I'm rendering it in two 30 second clips (to get around the 'free edition' limitations), I'll combine the two upload to YouTube and post here. Ahead of time, I must apologize for the intermittent letterboxing and the rather grainy images in some shots. The Video editor didn't allow me to crop uniformly, and it created odd patterns with some of the images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Well, since YouTube dropped the audio track, I'm going to FLV it myself and post it on my server. Edited February 14, 2011 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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