NickF1011 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Limited to 1964 units built :p They should build half of one too. They can mount it on the wall of the plant like they have with the half Corvette in Bowling Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) If you want to be so arrogant that even simple math won't persuade you to say you're mistaken, then so be it. The question is not 'simple math', anyone can count. The question is your inability to reconcile counting conventions. When you were born, the very *instant* you were born, how old were you? In terms of infinitesimals, you were zero years old, zero minutes, zero seconds. Zero. You were not one year old until one year after your birth. The Mustang was not 50 until this year, 2014, even though its 50th year began in 2013. April 17 1964 to April 17 1965 = 1st year April 17 1965 to April 17 1966 = 2nd year April 17 1966 to April 17 1967 = 3rd year April 17 1967 to April 17 1968 = 4th year April 17 1968 to April 17 1969 = 5th year April 17 1969 to April 17 1970 = 6th year April 17 1970 to April 17 1971 = 7th year April 17 1971 to April 17 1972 = 8th year April 17 1972 to April 17 1973 = 9th year April 17 1973 to April 17 1974 = 10th year by logical extension, therefore: April 17 2013 to April 17 2014 = 50th year So, really, you're a year late to be complaining about this. You should've been rallying for a 50th edition last year. Ford has observed the chronological anniversary since 1984 ('84, '89, '94, '99, '04, '09), and generally with a matching model year ('84, '90, '94, '99, '04, '09). HOWEVER, matching model years and chronological years creates a discrepancy since the original model year and chronological years did not coincide. Therefore, you had a '40th anniversary' Mustang with a 2004 model designation that celebrated only 39 full production years. In other words, you were celebrating the Mustang's 40th model year *in* its 40th model year. This would be comparable to putting one of those silly marathon stickers on your car after you've finished only 20 miles of the race. Logically, it would also permit Ford to launch a '50th Anniversary Edition' at any point during the run of the 2014 model year. Like, say, last October, for some reason. Again, past Ford practice has been confusing. Edited April 17, 2014 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Which model year is in production on 4/17/2014? If it's the '15, then label the '15 as the 50th anniversary edition. If it's the '14, then the '14 should be the 50th anniversary edition. Because after 4/17/2014, the 51st year begins. All depends on which model year was in production on 4/17/64 -- and we know that that was the '65. Which would make the '14 the 49th anniversary edition, because (counter to what Pioneer is trying to convince us of) you don't count anniversaries until the entire year is up. Have they started building the '15 yet, or did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Which model year is in production on 4/17/2014? If it's the '15, then label the '15 as the 50th anniversary edition. If it's the '14, then the '14 should be the 50th anniversary edition. Because after 4/17/2014, the 51st year begins. All depends on which model year was in production on 4/17/64 -- and we know that that was the '65. Which would make the '14 the 49th anniversary edition, because (counter to what Pioneer is trying to convince us of) you don't count anniversaries until the entire year is up. Have they started building the '15 yet, or did I miss something? No models were in production on April 17, 1964. And no, they haven't starte building the 2015 yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 No models were in production on April 17, 1964. And no, they haven't starte building the 2015 yet. Ah. Should have said "introduced" instead of "in production." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ah. Should have said "introduced" instead of "in production." I was thinking it began production then. I guess it really depends on what the goal is. If the goal is to celebrate the 50th year of production, then you make it on the '14 because that is the 50th year of production. If you want to commemorate 50 full years of production, then you put it on the '15. I've seen it done both ways with various different things. Obviously, from a marketing standpoint, it makes more sense to tie it to the '15 model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Just let it go. Ford is not going to change the 50th Anniversary date. God, you people are so anal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Just let it go. Ford is not going to change the 50th Anniversary date. God, you people are so anal. Hey, if we aren't arguing, we aren't happy! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hey, if we aren't arguing, we aren't happy! Yes we are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Yes we are! Pffft! Whatever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Only here will a small detail about a car go 3 pages.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Only here will a small detail about a car go 3 pages.... Four pages. And it's not about a car, it's about a counting system. Or anniversaries. Or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Four pages. And it's not about a car, it's about a counting system. Or anniversaries. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 4 pages is nothing. There are 546 pages about a competitive Ford Pro Stock car in NHRA on one of the forums I frequent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Four pages. And it's not about a car, it's about a counting system. Or anniversaries. Or something. No. It's about Pioneer. Pioneer. We asked you here today for this intervention, because we're all concerned about you. We're concerned about your focus on counting to fifty. We're afraid that you've become a fift-o-holic. We want you to honestly answer these questions: Do you hide from friends and family how often you count to fifty? Do you need to count to fifty in order to enjoy yourself? Do you count to fifty alone? Do you count to fifty before you go to bed at night? Do you have places hidden around the house where you count to fifty? Edited April 17, 2014 by RichardJensen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) No models were in production on April 17, 1964. And no, they haven't starte building the 2015 yet. Your wrong there Rich. http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2013/12/meet_first_ford_mustang_owner.html The 1965 Mustang SOLD from April 15,1964 not April 17. So this whole anniversary of the INTRODUCTION is all a big farce. Edited April 17, 2014 by wildosvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Back then, cars were revealed just days before going on sale. So, the 50th anniversary edition SHOULD be the '14! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Yes. Because it makes perfect sense to celebrate the 50th anniversary with a model that is only 49 years old. (and think about it: The 2014 model was introduced in 2013, making it 49 years old, not 50). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 No models were in production on April 17, 1964. And no, they haven't starte building the 2015 yet. Regular production started on March 9, 1964. Mustang No.10001 was the first regular production car however there were several hand built Pilot cars built before that. Those cars were used for photos and promotional materials. There were also a run of convertibles built without engines and with special underbody mounts for the Ford/Disney Magic Skyway at the World's Fair. One of the guys in my local club has a March 25, 1964 car. The cars all carried a 1965 serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danglin Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The 40th Anniversary badge was on what Mustang? (Hint, it was not 2005) I really am not worked up about this, just thought i would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The 40th Anniversary badge was on what Mustang? (Hint, it was not 2005) I really am not worked up about this, just thought i would Yeah. We know. It's already been covered. Practice in '84, '94, '99, '04, and '09 doesn't make a lot of sense. Especially since Ford did 25th Anniv. badging on MY '89 AND '90 Mustangs. http://www.cars-on-line.com/54730.html http://mustangattitude.com/cgi-bin/specialmustang.cgi?year=1989&model=&smod=Anniversary&optn=&name=25th%20Anniversary%20Mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Bottom line is this: Ford will get more money for 2015 anniversary editions than they would for 2014 anniversary editions. So everyone who likes Ford and wants them to make money should be happy with this decision. End of argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Bottom line is this: Ford will get more money for 2015 anniversary editions than they would for 2014 anniversary editions. So everyone who likes Ford and wants them to make money should be happy with this decision. End of argument. On the flip side of that, many folks won't buy a '14 because they are waiting for the '15. However, if Ford had offered the 50th anniversary edition, how many would have sprung for the '14 just to get the special edition? Hmmm, nobody knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 On the flip side of that, many folks won't buy a '14 because they are waiting for the '15. However, if Ford had offered the 50th anniversary edition, how many would have sprung for the '14 just to get the special edition? Hmmm, nobody knows! Ford would likely have no problems trading 1964 2014 sales for 2015 sales. I think the end number of vehicles would be the same anyway, with higher prices on the '15's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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